Quoting: no_information_here

Quoting: soulsourceThere is an important piece of information missing regarding Ubuntu: People should imho only use LTS versions.

I very much agree with this.

Well if a person is going to just use LTS versions of Ubuntu, they might as well just use Mint, which is based on LTS versions of Ubuntu.
Unless they're using KDE of course, 'cause there isn't a KDE Mint flavour.

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All the Linux-native games, if they're tested on anything at all, are tested on Ubuntu. Steam stuff also. So that's a strong reason to go with Ubuntu for gaming. I don't myself, but it's a strong reason.
I've had good luck gaming on Mint. Stuff tested on Ubuntu should usually work with Mint, since it's basically Ubuntu only better, plus with Cinnamon and Mate which I like as opposed to Gnome 3 which I don't, and without Snaps.
The only thing that makes me hesitate to recommend Mint for gaming is that my understanding is it tends to be a bit old and there are often reasons to want bleeding edge for gaming. Doesn't matter to me, I hardly ever buy games before they're on pretty solid sale or, in general, the kind of game that needs the bleeding edge stuff. But if I'm going to say to someone "Z is the distro you should use for gaming", that might be a problem for recommending Mint.

(Say, thinking of Mint and Snaps, I notice it's got a working Chromium again, where for a while it didn't exactly because Canonical was only packaging it as a Snap and Clem from Mint didn't want that. Anyone know what happened?)

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So, quick relationship guide for those who haven't already figured this one out:
If you want positive, non-toxic relationships, consider not getting involved with ruthless crime syndicates.

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Is it weird that I can accept all kinds of bizarre stuff in games but on this one I can't get my head past "But is it an otter or a cat?!"

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Quoting: orochi_kyo

Quoting: Purple Library GuyBut desktop Linux doesn't compete with ChromeOS. Really, it doesn't.

It has nothing against, has nothing in favor, Google takes all the open-source code they can and return NOTHING, I had to resource to paid software since Google offers NOTHING to support Google Drive synchronization with Linux, Ubuntu has a preinstalled tool developed by Ubuntu but I can't speak for other distros, other many Google tools has no official support for our OS but workarounds made by independent developers. Not even Chrome exists on Linux. Chromium from they "steal" take their base code for Chrome doesn't "count" for many services, they work but once they got broken, they remains broken until it is fixed by someone else.

Google is like "the good guy" that does nothing when something unfair is happening, the neutral "455h0l3" from my POW.

Yes, well, I didn't say Google was nice. It's a huge amoral corporation and the old "don't be evil" slogan is a sick joke. What I said was, desktop Linux doesn't compete with ChromeOS. Well, it doesn't.

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Quoting: orochi_kyoAt least they give chance AMD Linux users to play the game, better than a middle finger, and as Pierre said, CDPR gave the game prior release to Valve to adjust everything for Proton, that is a good sign they take LINUX into account

No it isn't. I do not understand why so many people have said CDPR giving Valve a game key means anything whatsoever with regards to their Linux stance. I don't actually have much opinion about their Linux stance, but this tells us zero about it.
When you're a major game developer and the biggest game distribution company in the world says, "Hey, we have a reason we'd like to get a key to your game in advance", you think three times before blowing them off. Doesn't matter if it's for Linux or just because Gabe wants to try the game early, you fork over the bloody key because it means you get to not piss off Valve, for free.

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Quoting: LinuxwarperAlso I would not be surprised if Google had a clause in their agreement with developers that prohibits or restricts native release on Linux. Why on world would you as a company be for desktop Linux, which competes with ChromeOS, and also encourage a local release that goes against your streaming service?

It's true that Google will prefer not to encourage non-streaming releases of games that are on their streaming platform. Or, for that matter, streaming releases on anyone else's streaming service--like any platform, they'd rather have exclusives.

But desktop Linux doesn't compete with ChromeOS. Really, it doesn't. Someday in the distant future, it may, but not currently. They both compete with Windows and to some extent Mac. But ChromeOS is going after a segment of the Windows monopoly that is very distinct from the segment that sees any desktop Linux uptake. Nobody who uses desktop Linux would, if desktop Linux were unavailable, say "I guess my second choice for doing that job is ChromeOS". And nobody who uses ChromeOS would, if ChromeOS were unavailable, say "I guess I'll switch to desktop Linux". Their second choice would be an iPad or something.

Meanwhile, on the technology level, ChromeOS pretty much is desktop Linux, so it's in Google's interest for desktop Linux as a technology to do well. And if they want to move ChromeOS up the food chain to be a non-toy OS, which to some extent they seem to, they'll have to use more desktop Linux technology. And as someone challenging the Windows desktop monopoly, it's somewhat positive for them if anyone else has some success in doing so--any reduction in the ubiquitous assumption that desktop == Windows is good.

So overall, I don't think Google have any reason to be against desktop Linux; if they had an opportunity to kneecap someone, both Microsoft and Apple would be far ahead of desktop Linux in their "to crush" list. And in a zero-sum game where kneecapping desktop Linux mostly would help MS and Apple (but not ChromeOS because different market segment), there's no way they'd be doing that. What I can see is Google, or the little Stadia bit anyway, pushing for exclusives period, so that no desktop version happens at all. But I don't think they have the market share in the gaming business to pull that off much.

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So, um . . . I don't follow the gaming world hype. Is this Cyberpunk 2077, like, a good game at all?

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Quoting: NociferAnd you do realize that most often, due to various reasons that are not of relevance here, Windows games running on Wine are much more hassle-free than Linux native games, due not to some kind of special incompetence on the part of the people making them but due to the lackluster graphics/audio/input/etc Linux stack?

I was with you up to this point. How exactly is a layer that translates for Windows games so they call to the Linux "graphics/audio/input/etc stack" supposed to be somehow sidestepping supposed liabilities of that stack?

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They definitely normally say "one more turn", so I gotta figure "year" instead has some significance.

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