Quoting: Philadelphus

Quoting: ShmerlThey mean to say, they'll release for macOS, but not for Linux. And it's a Unity game with minimal dependencies really. Though probably, this line of thinking isn't common.

There's an interesting line of thinking there. Say you're a developer (only familiar with Windows) making a game. Looking in terms of nothing but raw numbers of potential players, you release for Windows first. Then, you have the resources to port to a second OS: MacOS or Linux? Assuming your game works for maybe half of Linux players (using Proton), then the potential market is probably larger porting to Mac.

A bit moot currently since I believe Mac has at least 5 times our gaming market share at the moment, so the market is larger porting to Mac anyway.

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Quoting: GuestYou can cut that "sexism" bullshit out of the article. The devs were set up and 3DR went fully bonkers about it!
More informations about this topic can be found here: https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1164306204102995969 [External Link]

That said: Ion Fury is the perfect retro shooter! Love it to death and can't wait for workshop/mod support <3

Technically, if the claims in what you link are true, that doesn't make it a "set up". Nasty behaviour to be sure, but straight up what that describes is:
--A dev or devs from Ion Fury said some fucked up things in public
--Someone who wanted to mess with them went and dug up those things and publicized them
--People reacted to what they saw in the publicity, which was not particularly inaccurate
--A corporation reacted to the publicity in ways that reflect corporate priorities around reducing bad publicity and liability; these ways are on the heavy-handed side and probably counterproductive with respect to a certain segment of the US market.

A set up is where you arrange a situation; so like for something like this a set up would be if someone led the conversation around to prompt someone to say something that would look bad out of context, and then publicized the result. But nobody did, they just found and pushed the things somebody said all by themselves that looked bad because they were bad. And, well, that was malicious and brings us to the general problem of "Just how much should someone be vulnerable to the stupid shit they put on their Facebook or whatever?"
But for the moment, that's life in the big city. Don't say stupid obnoxious shit in public or it will be held against you.

The ironic part here is that, again, if your link is true this is a story of anti-SJW types screwing over other anti-SJW types (the developer/s) by exposing them, and still other anti-SJW types screwing over the anti-SJW developers by boycotting them for, um, doing the bidding of their corporate bosses like any sane person in this society would. And they're all blaming people who aren't transphobic for it. Hey, looks like y'all did this to yourselves.

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Quoting: gabberTerminx said:"if you're trying to decide your child is trans at birth you have mental problems and probably shouldn't be a parent imo".

Not only is this clearly labeled as an opinion I also think it is a very sensible one.
This transphile has gone too far

Which transphile is that? I've only seen the screenshots, so it's unclear whether anyone was actually suggesting any such thing. Since some of the other screenshots showed the guy totally ascribing ideas and motivations to "SJW" that as far as I can tell pretty much none of them actually hold, it would not surprise me if the guy had just made that up as a stick to beat pro-trans people with, rather than responding to anyone actually doing that. Anyone know how this came to be said in the first place?

, kids are asked about it before they really know who they are. There are kids which receive hormone treatment because their parents think they are trans.
IMO this causes more harm then good: 'real' trans people (sadly) have a high suicide rate of > 40%, with or without treatment!

No they don't. This looked really weird to me and sure enough, a quick google makes it obvious this is a ridiculous statistic. Trans people do have significantly higher rates of thinking about and attempting suicide than other people, probably of committing suicide as well. It's hard to be sure because whether people who commit suicide are trans doesn't normally get recorded. But in any case even rates of attempting suicide don't come close to 40%.

As for the devs caving in, censoring their staff and changing the game because some people got 'offended':

get woke, go broke!

So, what, you're suggesting boycotts of people who fail to be homophobic?

Just say something along the lines of "This is an opinion of one of our employees. We cannot and will not control their opinions and thus have no comment on the matter."

I actually have some sympathy for this position.
But why do I get the feeling that if the game said something rude about white males or some other group you're actually a member of or care about, you'd be near the front of the line calling for their heads?

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: LonsforThey targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

I disagree with your negative stereotype of gamers as assholes with no values except contrariness and competition.

its a copypasta, is supposed to be ironic.

Oh, I see. Sorry, I think you just ran afoul of Poe's Law, my friend.

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Quoting: LonsforThey targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

I disagree with your negative stereotype of gamers as assholes with no values except contrariness and competition.

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Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo

Quoting: ageres

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI played the DEMO and I didn't see anything controversial in the game...

SJWs can find controversy in a brick wall.

I'm from Argentina, I don't know the meaning of the word SJW.

It's a mostly US expression, an acronym for "Social Justice Warrior" used by American (and, ugh, some Canadian) right wingers to refer to people who believe in and are vocal about equal rights for, for instance, women, gays, trans, people of different religions etc.
It is intended as an epithet, which strikes me as kind of pathetic given that there is clearly plenty of social injustice in the United States, less of it would be good, and so fighting for social justice strikes me intuitively as a Good Thing. So like who makes their basic mental framework one of hating justice? But the current US zeitgeist apparently makes that seem normal.
Mind you, I personally think that if it was more possible to talk and do things about economic injustice, there would be less need to lean so hard on the social stuff, on either side.

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Quoting: scaineThere's a big difference between censorship and basic respect for fellow human beings. This issue is about the latter.

I'm not sure the difference is so big. Some censorship is censorship in the service of respect for fellow human beings, and there is something a bit ethically tricky about that; I think there's a genuine conflict of principles that shouldn't be shrugged off. Other censorship is censorship in the service of less pleasant stuff, and there is nothing ethically tricky about that at all--shouldn't happen.
Frankly though, in my view hardly any of the people who complain about SJWs and so forth actually care about censorship. So for instance, the very same people are often fine with passing actual laws banning people from boycotting or saying negative things about Israel, or with strong, fairly violent "law and order" measures to shut down left wing or environmental protestors. So these arguments are often only masquerading as being about respect or not for free speech, when they are actually about which views people want it to be considered OK to express. And I have little respect for the concept that the specific views which should be OK are ones which are sexist, homophobic, transphobic, racist etc.

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I liked Transistor quite a lot; bought it largely because of Scaine's article and have no regrets. Been thinking of going back and playing through again. Thanks Scaine!

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Quoting: Luke_NukemThis is the second Windows only game I purchased to play on Linux... I never ever thought I would be doing this 15 years ago. The impact Valve is having just by including Proton in Steam and enabling one-click playing of Windows games is understated.

Well . . . define "impact". I'll call it a big impact when I see the percentage of Linux Steam users start to consistently creep up. At the moment, well, we should be grateful, but "impact" I dunno.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandle(Also, very silly to use a DRM format on a video file that you're going to upload to your official YouTube channel anyway)

. . . Yes. Yes, it is.

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