Quoting: Chronarius

Quoting: scaineBased on my own experience then, I suspect that the vast, vast majority of support issues are logged by Linux users who are using any distro that isn't Ubuntu. Because, honestly, what else can it be??

Or am I somehow magically blessed with this near-perfect experience?

Exactly! This is my experience as well. Ubuntu has become the standard for gaming on Linux.

Very true. Pity they decided to bugger it up with the 32-bit library mess.

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Quoting: Chronarius

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: ChronariusOnce again, how does he get his numbers? Which sales count for Linux? Which for Windows?

Steam gives you those figures. Whatever platform the game is played on attributes the sale. If there's no playtime in the first two weeks, the platform of sale is used for attribution, I think? Need to be careful with that one though, as the default sale platform for attribution is "Windows", so if the game is bought on Android or Steam Play, then not played, I think you end up counting as a Windows sale.

Yes, I know. That is what we speculate from some comments of game developers. As we know the algorithm how Valve's creates these numbers from Steam is flawed.

The numbers that developers get about the sales of their own games are not the same as the numbers we get from the Steam hardware survey. The latter has unknown methodology which, by occasionally having a flaw publicly fixed, has shown us that flaws existed. But the numbers developers get about their game sales are pretty solid because that's about the dollars and cents and nobody would tolerate fudging. There may be a few edge cases where some misleading figure slips in, but who buys on Windows and doesn't play the game and then expects it to count as a Linux sale? True, those figures only tell you about Steam sales, but I don't think there's a pretense otherwise. Effects from other platforms and Steam keys are I suppose a problem, and one which will tend to reduce apparent Linux sales, but it's surely a fairly minor effect.

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Quoting: johndoe

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou are telling everyone how to act--in a nutshell, that none of us should criticize public figures in general or Tim Sweeney in particular. And in a rather pushy way, tending to approach the hot-under-the-collar, although you're not getting personal. This seems preachy. I don't know about anyone else here, but personally, it gets my back up some.

Maybe this is because I'm older than the most people here and think differently.
I for my part want EGS for Linux - you not?

I'm in my fifties; I had taken you for quite young.
I for my part want EGS to fail, and stand as an example of what not to do for other would-be Steam competitors, in hopes that such future competitors decide to do things differently (and in the mean while a platform, Steam, which backs Linux and has certain other advantages continues to dominate). If it unfortunately succeeds, I suppose I would prefer it support Linux than not. But again, the connection you draw between this and how we talk about Tim Sweeney is mistaken.

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Quoting: johndoe

Quoting: Purple Library GuyAnd who is treating whom how in this discussion? You seem an imperfect instance of what you preach.

I'm preaching nothing.

You are telling everyone how to act--in a nutshell, that none of us should criticize public figures in general or Tim Sweeney in particular. And in a rather pushy way, tending to approach the hot-under-the-collar, although you're not getting personal. This seems preachy. I don't know about anyone else here, but personally, it gets my back up some.

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Quoting: johndoe

Quoting: MunkBeing a human gives anyone the right to voice their opinion on someone else

Agreed.

Quoting: Munkeven if it's insulting.

Disagreed.

You will never get a "higher" respect when you treat people this way.
Driving up the wall should not become daily routine.

And who is treating whom how in this discussion? You seem an imperfect instance of what you preach.

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Quoting: johndoe

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou know, I didn't even read the article.

Yeah, you are right.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou do realize that the main reason people don't like exclusives is about their impact on consumers, not developers, right? So developers not being coerced has nothing to do with whether Sweeney is evil. Completely off topic.

Off topic??? This Sweeney-Bashing started from the day Valve announced that Metro: Exodus goes "exclusive" to EGS - my argument. From this day on lots of gamers where angry. This is understandable but honestly does not give anybody the right to give him names. He is still a business man.
And now people are bashing against Sweeney in this article/post.
This article is in no way negative - it tells only "POSITIVE" things about Sweeney.
Look... he said (wrote) that Linux is great!
Next question should be...
Cool, Mr. Sweeny. So Linux client is CONFIRMED;). When will the launch happen? Because of the lack of functions in EGS this should be doable THIS year, right?.
... instead of bashing.
Who is now off topic??????

Who is off topic? Still you. You said developers weren't being harmed, therefore Sweeney wasn't evil. But nobody's allegations about Sweeney being evil have had to do with developers being harmed (by exclusives). They have been on a different topic--the question of consumers being harmed (by exclusives). Therefore, your point, being on a different topic from the one people were up in arms about, failed to refute their collective positions because it was off topic.

Note that this does not constitute me saying Sweeney is, or isn't, evil. The point is that if some people say apples are green and you say no, oranges are orange, this--despite being true--fails to refute the people alleging apples are green, because it is off topic. To do that, you would have to argue that apples are red.

I would add that you are saying to me that I should repent of my position that I think Sweeney's words generally don't have any meaning and aren't worth paying attention to--because his most recent words sound pleasant. This also seems to me to miss the point I was making, rather than refuting it. I'm willing to stipulate that his most recent words sound pleasant; I trust you entirely on this. I just don't think it matters much.

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Quoting: PatolaVery very nice, but it needs feathers and vivid colors for scientific accuracy.

Yeah, I was wondering if I could go feathery with my character. I think I did see one feathery dinosaur slinking through the underbrush, but they don't seem to be doing it much. (Edit: There is one playable dinosaur type with feathers; they're pretty drab though)

I was watching the video and when they talk about the stegosaurus they refer to it as having a spiked "thagomizer" on the end of its tail! I would forgive them much just for that. Been a while since The Far Side. :D

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Quoting: linuxcityso some developers out there said that linux is not a viable platform,ummm looking at this pie chart proves that you can make money on this platform.it's just an excuse to not support it.support all 3 guess what everyone is happy.i know it costs money but you got to get your feet wet with this.good to see this and i hope we see more of this.

I applaud your spirit, but we should acknowledge that this is an outlier, and a fairly distant one at that. We're clearly looking at a game that has gotten significantly more publicity in Linux than Windows circles. I hate to say it, but Linux is typically more in the 1% range.

I'm actually surprised and even a bit puzzled at how badly Linux and Linux gaming have done in the years since Steam and the Steam Machine. I was expecting a sort of gradual expansion but we seem to have stagnated--and at that, stagnated more specifically on the gaming front where Linux has improved by leaps and bounds as a platform but our percentage has stayed flat at best, than on the desktop as a whole, where there does seem to be a very slow ongoing increase in Linux numbers despite the Linux desktop itself being in a more incremental improvement stage. I don't really get it.

So this is a lovely exception and it's nice that a small game with the right coverage can get a big boost from Linux (and Mac), but it is nonetheless an exception. We would need a lot of plurals of this anecdote before it becomes data.

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This is very sweet. I hope it all works out.

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Quoting: johndoeAgain some people here are bashing against someone they DON'T KNOW.
Is Tim Sweeney someones uncle etc. here??? I don't think so.

In fact, I'm much more likely to bash people I don't know than people I do. Such people are generally public figures who speak publicly and do actions which have wide impact. Very often, this gives perfectly adequate basis for bashing. I've never met Benito Mussolini, but I'm pretty sure I'm not wild about the man. So no, I'm not planning to limit all my criticisms to my uncles.

Quoting: johndoeEven his tweets might not be from himself.

People always tend (ME included) to interpret things into something that wasn't said.
I mean... when someone says his favourite color is PINK, it does not immediately mean he/she is gay.
It "might" be so, but you "really" don't know.

Yes, there is uncertainty in the world. This is not a sufficient reason to never form a judgement.

Quoting: johndoeYes, Tim Sweeney made "exclusive" deals with developers/publishers and what now? Did he force them to do it? NO. So, is he evil? No.

You do realize that the main reason people don't like exclusives is about their impact on consumers, not developers, right? So developers not being coerced has nothing to do with whether Sweeney is evil. Completely off topic.

Quoting: johndoeSaying bullshit about someone you don't know because it does't make you comfortable is a waste of time and leads only to another game client which will never be released for Linux - thank you.

Instead we should at least try to convince people to support us and not whinge around.

It is vanishingly unlikely that Tim Sweeney is reading this comment section or that, if he did, he would base moneymaking decisions on it. Your scenario where we say unpleasant things about Tim Sweeney and then although he'd been planning on giving us all a free pony that doesn't materialize because we weren't nice to him, is not a picture of reality.
Look, if you want to say it's not nice to say bad things about people, just say that. All your attempts to put topspin on it are not making sense.

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