Quoting: riusma

Quoting: pageroundIf the global average of Linux players is 0.8% and only half of the games sold support Linux, then you would expect sales for the half that supports Linux to be 2* 0.8 ~= 1.6%. Maybe a little less now due to steam play.

I think that we have probably already reached the point where offer largely exceeds demand (your point should be valid only if demand exceeds offer). :)

Not sure I get you. The doubling effect is just because the purchases are divided among half as many games. If Linux gamers spend on average the same amount of money on games as Windows gamers, but can spend that money on a population of games that is half the size, then games in that population will get twice as much money on average from a Linux gamer (while the population of non-Linux games gets no money from Linux gamers).
If I'm going to spend $100 on games in a year and I have access to 10 games, then on average each game will receive $10. If there are 10 games but I only have access to 5 of them, then on average each of those 5 will receive $20, while the 5 I don't have access to will receive $0.

The actual number as far as I can make out is more like a third of games sold supporting Linux; with Proton maybe we're headed for half.

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Quoting: SpykerI think we need the equivalent of GamingOnLinux in French, to spread the word about Linux gaming here in France (u_u)

According to this, France is a total hotbed of Linux use--nearly 13% of sales! We're talking like double the level of the Anglosphere.
Also to a lesser extent Brazil and Russia. Although of course this is a pretty small sample.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Purple Library GuyI'm pretty sure Chronarius only didn't care how search works with the wish list, because search isn't the problem anyone has been pointing out. You seem to be consistently replying to people who have problems with other things related to the wishlist OS setting thing by saying "No, search isn't a problem". No doubt it isn't, but that's not relevant if what people were complaining about is something else.

I keep pointing out that search works because people keep missing this point. Chronarius thought that Steam wouldn't display Windows-only games anymore, which is true for some parts (e.g. discovery queue) and wrong for other parts (e.g. search, publisher weekend lists). The global search helps me because I get information about gaming from other sources and then lookup the game on Steam to see if it supports Linux. If it helps him depends on what he's looking for, but it's always better to know more than to know less.

g000h, which you are probably referring to as well, wanted to see Windows deals. If this works or not also depends on his approach: When wishlisting Windows only games, it works, if you want to see Windows only sales on the store page, the filter is hindering him (which is probably the case, I give you that).

I want people to know what works and what doesn't to make an informed decision, not an "I don't know and I don't care" kind of decision.

I want to add one more thing: I see that Linux gamers don't like this feature too much and I understand why. But seen from the other side, it makes more sense: If you're buying Windows only games anyway if there's no Linux version, the feature wouldn't send a strong message. Now it's of the "Do a Linux version or lose x customers" kind. People who want to see Windows games as well send a message more like "I want a Linux game! But if you don't do it, nevermind, I'll buy anway..."

Just for the record, for me in particular it's probably a perfectly fine feature because the Windows-only games I'm remotely interested in are few and far between. GalCiv III maybe--but that's not a lot to keep track of and I haven't even put it on my wishlist.
But for some people it seems like it would have definite problems.

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It's a good idea. I personally probably won't use it much, I'll just read the articles, but I can see it being great for a lot of people.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Chronarius

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ChronariusMaybe. I don't know and don't care. Valve can do a better job.

Without Valve, I would still be playing on Windows (while doing everything else on Linux for decades).
Valve maybe could do even better - but they could do lots worse. Like not supporting Steam for Linux at all.

Can you stay on topic please? We are talking about the wishlist here.

In fact, the article is about the wish list in combination with the OS filter - which you explicitly said you don't care about how it really works.

Well..

I'm pretty sure Chronarius only didn't care how search works with the wish list, because search isn't the problem anyone has been pointing out. You seem to be consistently replying to people who have problems with other things related to the wishlist OS setting thing by saying "No, search isn't a problem". No doubt it isn't, but that's not relevant if what people were complaining about is something else.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: g000hI haven't enabled it because it would exclude me from seeing deals on Windows-only titles. When enabled though, I can see it would potentially benefit Linux gaming from a visibility perspective. I thought these details were implied by my post.

You still an see the Windows titles if you search for them. So it depends on where you'Re getting your infos from. If it's Steam, the filter would be bad. If you're reading elsewhere about a game, the filter doesn't change anything: You go to Steam, search for the game and do whatever you want with it.

g000h was saying they only buy Windows games when they are notified of a (pretty serious) sale. I can't see going around regularly searching for Windows titles that you're keeping in the back of your mind (instead of on your wishlist) on the off chance of a sale.

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Looks interesting. Might give it a try.

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Somehow, the idea of doing quests to get character skins makes the PCs sound like gruesome serial killers who flay their victims.

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Quoting: sneakeyboard

Quoting: LinasI bet these will not be for gaming, but rather scaled up versions of their integrated GPUs. Something that is good for compute and workstation tasks. Will probably see these mostly on business workstations. Pure speculation, though. :whistle:

Right now I am very happy with AMD. The drivers keep getting better, so I think we have not seen the full potential of what AMD can do on Linux yet.

That's 110% likely going to be case. Despite us certainly making the gpu manufacturer's money, the fact is that the computer/tech industry is primarily focused on the enterprise. Servers alone make the large majority of intel's revenue. Nvidia's making hundreds of thousands, if not millions, per sale over that of their RTX products (these include machine learning, A.I., deep learning, etc). All these products have release cycles that begin with their "workstation" prototype: i.e. Nvidia's volta gpus; everything else is basically a cut-down version of it. We get leftovers, per se.

On the plus side, Linux has a lot more presence in those spaces than in desktops and gaming. Not so surprising then if drivers for Linux work fairly well.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Guest....aaaaaand I think I know what I'll be playing around with tonight. Good to see an update, and I'm incredibly curious about how well Unreal Engine with Vulkan will work on my Kaveri.
(I don't keep games installed if I'm not playing them, so I don't really see notifications about game updates unless they're posted here.)

And that's why I've got so much of my library installed, to keep everyone up to date :P

Your hard drive/s must be a monster.

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