Quoting: Linas

Quoting: BrisseI don't know much about ChromeOS, but isn't it more like Android than a traditional GNU/Linux distribution?

Sort of. It is a minimal Linux system that boots directly into a modified Chrome browser.

While I guess that is true, I'd like to note that when you're using one it doesn't look like that. My wife has one. It looks like a minimal desktop, with wallpaper, a taskbar at the bottom and some of what look like applications on it (all of which happen to run on the browser--browser, mail, docs etc) and a couple of other options including searching for and adding in more apps. If Google wanted, they could add real applications and users wouldn't know the difference.

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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: LinasI guess the point is that just being better is not enough. We also need to win their hearts. Somehow.

There is one thing that Apple has plenty of and Linux barely has any of, and that is marketing and advertising. Apple has somehow managed to create a cult that will follow Apple through ice and fire while also for some reason defending Apple's anti-consumer behaviour. To people in this cult, it doesn't matter if Apple puts out shitty products for insane prices and provide terrible support. The cult followers will still keep buying Apple.

GNU/Linux isn't big in the consumer space because it has no marketing or advertising. Those who use it are usually IT professionals, tech enthusiast or similar that seek it out on their own terms. Average Jane and John Doe usually doesn't do that. In a way it can be a blessing for us since it creates this sense of a tight community, but on the other hand we have this issue with being too small of a market-share for commercial software to care about us. :|

This is the main reason I follow ChromeOS with some interest. I'm not really a Google enthusiast, but it's the only desktop Linux being marketed.

I don't know much about ChromeOS, but isn't it more like Android than a traditional GNU/Linux distribution?

Not as far as I can tell. I mean, Android genuinely isn't Gnu/Linux in the literal sense that it doesn't use GNU. ChromeOS is more like a Linux distribution with a weird, deliberately limited Desktop Environment. It's not that hard to get it to run normal Linux software, and lately I seem to recall Google making it officially possible (not, like, easy or obvious, but possible) and starting to move away from the whole "browser is everything" schtick, at the same time as they are coming out with less-wimpy Chromebooks. I get the impression they are starting to quietly try to move ChromeOS up the price tiers from their little niche in "disposable laptops", which would mean they'd need to be a bit more general purpose.
I wouldn't be surprised at some point to see beefy Chromebooks set up so you could play games on them, presumably involving Steam and some behind the scenes compatibility with the Steam runtime, although they might instead start by putting their game streaming service on 'em. Whatever the case, as far as I can tell yeah, unlike Android, ChromeOS is pretty much genuine Linux and it's a space worth watching as Google slowly tries to grow Chromebooks past their modestly successful little niche.

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Quoting: ShmerlGreat soundtrack too (not joking): https://ryanike.bandcamp.com/album/west-of-loathing-original-game-soundtrack [External Link]

That is a great soundtrack. It has all the great cowboy-movie-type stuff, turned up to eleven or so but at the same time done very well. A ton of panache there. There's even a really quite good rag! I want to figure out how to put that in place of the Stellaris soundtrack. Not that there's anything wrong with the Stellaris soundtrack, exactly.
Wishlisted. Like WorMzy, I'm sure I meant to do that before.

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Quoting: Brisse

Quoting: LinasI guess the point is that just being better is not enough. We also need to win their hearts. Somehow.

There is one thing that Apple has plenty of and Linux barely has any of, and that is marketing and advertising. Apple has somehow managed to create a cult that will follow Apple through ice and fire while also for some reason defending Apple's anti-consumer behaviour. To people in this cult, it doesn't matter if Apple puts out shitty products for insane prices and provide terrible support. The cult followers will still keep buying Apple.

GNU/Linux isn't big in the consumer space because it has no marketing or advertising. Those who use it are usually IT professionals, tech enthusiast or similar that seek it out on their own terms. Average Jane and John Doe usually doesn't do that. In a way it can be a blessing for us since it creates this sense of a tight community, but on the other hand we have this issue with being too small of a market-share for commercial software to care about us. :|

This is the main reason I follow ChromeOS with some interest. I'm not really a Google enthusiast, but it's the only desktop Linux being marketed.

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Quoting: Corben

Quoting: Purple Library GuyI'm happy to be able to tell you, yes it will. Buy something and play it on Proton and it shows as a Linux sale. Valve has been quite explicit about this.

Yep, I know it will show up as a Linux sale, when I buy it on Linux and play it with proton ;)
I was referring to the sales that are made, because I as a Linux gamer have bought and played a title and told other people about it because I like that game and thus they buy it, but they buy it on different platforms. This is hardly measurable, but kinda is caused because I had the possibility to play it on Linux. Maybe my wording wasn't clear enough to reflect what I meant, sorry about that.

Ahhh, I get what you were saying now. Sorry, totally got past me the first time.

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Quoting: CorbenI do my best to show devs respect and thank them for creating native Linux versions. Or, if their game works with proton, I let them know I'm playing it on Linux. So they see, there are Linux gamers who value their work. It's difficult to measure it, but I'm sure we help spreading the word about their games, when we play them on Linux. And that's an important thing, though it will not show up in numbers regarding Linux sales.

I'm happy to be able to tell you, yes it will. Buy something and play it on Proton and it shows as a Linux sale. Valve has been quite explicit about this.

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Quoting: razing32I hate trailers that tell me nothing of the game. :-|

Yeah, that was weird. But may be they don't even know how it will look since it's in the very early design phase? They only announced the project, not some release or anything the like.

I think it's at least partly that they're assuming if you don't already know what Axis & Allies is, you're not likely to buy it. The audience for this is fans.

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Man, that takes me back. To be honest, I never played, but I remember in my university gaming club in the 80s, while one group o' nerds including me was around one table playing paper&pencil RPGs there would often be another such group at another table playing Axis & Allies. It was up there with Squid Leader . . . uh, I mean Squad Leader.

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Quoting: AllocSo much misinformation in one thread :(

As Code Artisan wrote above EAC can't make the Windows version of EAC work on Wine. It's kernel level code that will never run with Wine.

While I'm sure your theory as to why this is so is very solid, I could have sworn there were people in this very thread saying it used to in fact do so, for them even. So unless EAC changed from not being kernel-level code to being kernel-level code (in which case whoever decided to make that change was also in effect deciding to make it not work in Wine and so people's complaints are not invalidated by your point), there's some sort of contradiction between the theory and some people's lived experience.

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So why is it called "Oh, BS!" ?

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