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Quoting: CreepioI still play Dirt 3. It runs perfectly on the Steam Deck and provides loads of fun even to this day. I cannot say the same for many modern racing titles. I waited years for Forza Horizon 4 to reach a reasonable price, but by the time I was ready to buy it, it had already been pulled from the store. What is the point of waiting for a game to be affordable only for it to be killed at the six-year mark?

It's absolutely not the same. FH4 still works well as of today, including online features such as pvp races and eliminator game mode. The only exception is that they killed the festival playlists, effectively making some of the achievements impossible to unlock, which is a bummer. Anyway, delisting a game from the store because the licences expired is absolutely not the same as making the game not launch after the servers are shut down.

Yeah, I guess you're right. And to add further insult to injury, I can't even buy DiRT 3 from Steam anymore. So, yeah. I gave a bad example. Sorry about that.

I think the principle of what I'm saying is, I wish they would sell games forever, and at the very least, if they don't want to sell them forever, they should still be completely or almost completely functional. I don't understand why they won't just sell the games forever.

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I still play Dirt 3. It runs perfectly on the Steam Deck and provides loads of fun even to this day. I cannot say the same for many modern racing titles. I waited years for Forza Horizon 4 to reach a reasonable price, but by the time I was ready to buy it, it had already been pulled from the store. What is the point of waiting for a game to be affordable only for it to be killed at the six-year mark?

I absolutely hate the idea of buying racing games anymore because I know they will inevitably be delisted. Why should I spend $60 to $120 on a game to have "all the bells and whistles" when the developer plans to stop selling it before the decade is even out?

I find it very difficult to justify rewarding this type of anti-consumer behavior. I would much rather a game use indefinite licensing deals, or even feature fictional cars and original music, than for "limited licensing" to be used as a justification for killing a product. Ultimately, licensing is just a secondary excuse for the primary driver: greed.

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TL;DR: Legion Go 2 is good, but it's not a perfect system and it's way overpriced. I think it'll be even better with SteamOS or Bazzite.

Elaborate response (sorry for the wall of text):

My brother got the Lenovo Legion Go 2, and while it is absolutely overpriced, it is a very capable system. I had to increase the VRAM in the BIOS and choose a quieter fan preset because, even when completely idle, that thing is obnoxiously loud.

For my use case, I primarily use it to cloud-stream games to the living room TV. It easily handles 120Hz, 4K, and HDR; it’s absolutely beautiful, and I cannot complain at all.

Where I’ve had major issues is using the Handheld Companion software. I tried to get the system to emulate a PS4 controller so I could use Steam Input and Gyro, but I’ve been plagued with so many issues that I eventually gave up. To get it working, I had to disable the included Lenovo software and some obscure system processes, then try to become a guru at Handheld Companion itself. It’s a massive time sink, and I’m not entirely sure it’s worth the effort.

As for handheld mode, it is definitely comfortable due to the ergonomic improvements Lenovo made. However, because of its weight and the fact that the buttons, D-pad, and joysticks are aligned semi-vertically, it can become quite fatiguing to hold for long periods.

The lack of dual trackpads makes the desktop experience frustrating. Without them, I can’t type easily and am stuck using the on-screen keyboard, which is a poor experience.

That said, the screen on the Legion Go 2 is stunning. The peak brightness, HDR, colors, clarity, resolution, and refresh rate are all incredible. It’s a phenomenal screen in every possible way - a solid 5/5.

I want to install Bazzite or SteamOS on it, but I haven't taken the plunge yet. Overall, it’s a great system. It is definitely not worth the full asking price, but if you do decide to bite the bullet and get it, I think you will enjoy it, albeit you need a LOT of patience because as of the time of writing this, it only has Winblows. I haven’t tested the Xbox fullscreen experience yet because I heard it was bricking some systems, and that was enough to scare me off. I am a "shy tinkerer" - I like my stuff to work, and since this is my brother’s device, I’m even more wary.

I still love my Steam Deck OLED and prefer it over the Legion Go 2, but once I put SteamOS or Bazzite on the Lenovo, I suspect the experience will rapidly improve.

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I switched to Waterfox a year ago and I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made.

I did a lot of research too before settling on it. I wanted a browser that has feature parity with regular Firefox, but doesn't add a crap ton of unnecessary extras. I just want Firefox, but without the crap. That's Waterfox.

I've seen people recommend brave and all these other different browsers, but that's just chromium. Waterfox doesn't try to give you a bunch of extra stuff you don't want.

I've only ever had like, one website mess up with it, and I had to use a user agent switcher to make it think I was using Firefox.

I also use Waterfox on my android phone. The experience is great. Highly recommend it.

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Quoting: The_Real_BittermanHm, Steam Deck 2 might be ARM based I guess. 🤔

I wouldn't count on it. Valve has a very good relationship with AMD and I don't see another vendor provide an ARM chip with similar gaming performance. But maybe for a Steam Deck 3?

I thought AMD was dabbling or was going to dabble with ARM cpus? If I were AMD, I'd begin transitioning to ARM. x86 days are numbered.

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This is going to be interesting. Intel does need all the help it can get, and Nvidia's deep wallets can help that.

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I do appreciate the efforts they're making here. While, I dream of a day when we're not forced to use other people's crappy launchers, this is a good band-aid to the problem on Steam Deck.

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It's a really cool handheld. The lack of rear buttons makes me lose interest, though. I appreciate the effort, especially the dual trackpads. Maybe future versions of this will have rear buttons.

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I really like Sunshine/Apollo/Moonlight, etc etc. Problem I have is, I have 2 different PCs in my house and I can't seem to figure out the port forwarding to make them both work without conflicting with each other. I've only ever been able to get my personal PC to work outside the network, and it has been spotty at best.

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