holycrap! that is impressive! that just proves that apple could do if they wanted but chose not.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismAMD clearly has made inroads with getting all the game console contracts.

cough cough switch cough cough

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i played plants vs zombies 1 and loved it, then they destroyed plants vs zombies 2 with dlc or something like that.
then they made this spin off that... i havent played but dont seems like an good game, i mean, i liked plants vs zombies for the gameplay not the characters, so i dont see the point of playing with then in an completely different game, especially if that means they wont ever make an "plants vs zombies 3" but an sequel for the spin offs...
and as if that wasnt bad enough now they break the steamdeck compat with this...

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you know what...
not everyone know how to flash an OS to their device, maybe they can make an money reseling it and if they make enough money, they make make lenovo realize that there is actual an demmand for linux devices...
nah, i might be dreaming...

btw, their site is quite cool! it looks professional (by professional i mean those sites that act like an ad for an product instead of sites target at niche audiences like us)

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Quoting: SzkodnixThe only OS that should matter on that kind of devices from Lenovo :grin:

sorry for the intromission, but by the avatar you are using i guess you are an pepper and carrot fan?

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: EikeThe linear approximation to the curve really needs to be split into two parts! (somewhere in 2021?)

... or the software could come up with something non-linear?

Why?

Because the linear approximation systematically overestimates all of the oldest points and underestimates all of the youngest points (except a single one we would attribute to some measurement error, probably located in the far east). The line doesn't fit, and this not in a "jumpy" way (as to be to be expected), but in a systematical way. The curve to be approximated isn't linear, at least not over the whole time.

So we could either try two linear curves, or some curve with a slope (slightly) increasing over time.

i think we can try to predict the next few months with a few different approachs, then keep the one who was better able to predict the trends

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Quoting: damarrin. After all, as we Linux users all know, hunting the web for programs and downloading installers is the silliest thing ever.

no, its not.
it prevent OS vendor from abusing their customers with an monopoly using an biased store.
like promoting first party browsers (Chrome, edge, safari) instead of the best ones.

not to mention the repositories of the linux distros are serious lacking softwares that often exist for linux.
for example, look how many years took then to have something like godot, you can develop entire games in this meantime.

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" allows dynamically selecting the backend too"
that means switch between openGL and vulkan without rebooting godot and the godot game/app ?

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Quoting: CruelAngelQuick and extremly dirty math:

There are 8 billion ppl out there, lets say 4 billion of them have access to internet on a PC, and Linux has a 2% user base, that means 80 million ppl useing Linux. If that is true, then comparatively the 1 million users of Flathub is suprisingly low.

not everyone has an computer, we have a bunch of people who are slaves, un employeed, have an low income/live in a country where everything is freaking expensive, hell some people barely have even water of food.
i saw the number of people who had windows computer some time ago and it was about 1.5 billions , agains 2.3 of android devices.
a few time later i saw the number 1.8billion of windows computers against 3 billions android devices, iOS is arround 700 million or 1 bi.
(the reason why i quoted the number of windows and android devices twice is because the first number was from the same date, the cecound 1.8 bi, 3bi is from different dates so its hard to compare)

if we count the linux marketshare as 1~2% then, microsoft is suppose to have betwen 45 and 90 more people than that.
in other words, linux may have something arround 20 or 40 millions of users.

lets make another guess:
according to statcounter, windows has 72.79%, linux 3.82%, chromeOS 2.42% and there is 4.61% of unknow devices, lets assume they are linux devices for the sake of being optimistic, lets also count chromeOS, if those 72.79% are windows devices, ahd those 10,85% count as linux...
assuming we have 1.8 billions of windows computers out there, this means: 268 millions.
i doubt that is the real number.
an more likely scenario, those 4.61% are windows devices that for some reason didnt got count.
that means: 77,4% of marketshare for windows (1.8 bi devices) 6.24% of marketshare for linux (145 millions of devices)
now, looking at it, that is an impressive number, if we ignore chromebook, about 88 million people are tech savy enough to swap the OS that came with their computer.

Btw im completely ignoring dualbooters, and im considering that the number of windows device is fixed, wich probably inst the case , linux growing in share generally means either an dual booter or someone who stoped using windows wich we should substract from the 1.8 bi.

being more realistic now, i think the most likely scenario is 1.8 billions of computers (not windows computers), 74,4% of marketshare for windows (or more likely stat counter is broken) so we have... ok im tired of math...
1.3 billions of windows devices against 112 millions of linux devices (68 million install by thenselves the rest are chromebooks)

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Quoting: Lachu

Quoting: mad_mesaAya are a Windows OEM. So they have almost certainly signed an agreement with Microsoft that includes language that in return for lower prices for Windows, they agree to (among other things) obtain a license for Microsoft's patents on every Windows-compatible system they sell. Shipping a licensed Windows install on the device grants the license, anything else pre-installed requires an additional fee paid to Microsoft to license their patents.

They probably thought that if SteamOS (or their own Linux distribution) didn't violate Microsoft's patents they wouldn't have to pay, and Microsoft reminded them that doesn't get them out of the terms of the agreement because those devices can still run Windows so it wouldn't matter.

The only way out of it is to not be a Windows OEM at all, use some kind of Windows-incompatible boot process, or fight Microsoft in court over the terms of a contract they entered into, all of which Aya aren't willing to do.

You are truth. There are rumors from companies in European telling court, MS sign trade ordering it to pay MS for each sold devices as it has Windows preinstalled, even if it does not. Of course, Windows license normally costs 100$ (around), but MS makes big deal for companies, which sign devil trade with MS. In this case, companies could install Windows on device, for example, for 20$, but it must install Windows on every device.
Companies sign trade, even if Windows is bad, because client seen this: same PC configuration without Windows license costs 70$ less and Windows license costs 100$. And people thinking Windows is good, because it normally costs 100$, so that's a deal!
In that way Windows got world domination - simple by users dull. User thinking Windows is good, because there no option in many stores to buy devices without Windows and Windows costs 100$. But this is only magic.
And, if user order device manufacturer/reseller to refund Windows costs, they must refund 100$, because Windows real costs is secret. In this case, hardware vendors does everything to not refund Windows, even telling lies about Linux, creating rumors, etc.
That was great strategy!

this strategy is as good as its illegal, but i heard about it a long time ago.
thinking about it for a moment, if an company sell 100.000 computers with windows and 1.000 computers with linux, microsoft may force then to sell windows on all the computers threatening to rise the price from 20 to 100, then the company will have to pay 10 millions instead of 2 millions.
i wonder if aya really planned to ship devices with linux or that was just their way of negotiating an better deal with microsoft.

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