Quoting: elmapul"This always happens with new, emerging tech. A useful technical standard simply can't be written until there is some sort of a consensus on how the technology is supposed to work."

that is why we have khrnnonos group to discuss and create standards, OSVR came with the same proposal, bring the industry players togheter to discuss an standard, i cant understand why we need an workgroup to discuss an standard if we are already doing that

As I understand, the goals of OSVR and OpenXR are different. OSVR is doing a "true" API (a real platform). OSVR is "competing" with the others and of course it would be good for once if an open platform wins. OpenXR on the other hand is not doing the same and is not a competitor against anyone as it only facilitates as an abstraction layer.

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The goals of OpenXR seem very moderate (at least as I understand for now). It does not look like trying to be "one true standard" but for the moment it seems to me something more like a useful middleware that abstracts the API. So the goal is very moderate as it does not replace the other "standards" but does not make things worse in any way. (it is not "competing")

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Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiTIt's Open Source under the GPL. They could charge for it as long as the source code is free but I highly doubt that they will do so.

Yes, interesting point. The game itself will be always free, but the GPL does not prohibit for selling steam keys.

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In my case wine was pretty unimportant. For some years I was dualbooting with windows so wine was irrelevant. Also I have not been gaming on windows a lot. Almost all of my games are either old MS-DOS games or are new Linux-native games! Wine has been useful mainly to be able to run random EXE files and the funny thing is that this executables had compatibility issues with new versions of windows :P
For some years now I only use wine for playing LackeyCCG.

DOSBox and SCUMMVM have been way more important for my gaming than wine.

Also I consider games that use wine as a porting tool as _native_. This is a simple idea that should be very encouraged for old games. It is of course a terrible idea for new games (remastered games are also new) for a lot of reasons one of them is that windows is a moving target and Linux should not chase. I will not install wine version of steam to play games but if a game simply runs without doing a sepparate steam installation it really does not make any sense the technology behind for the end user.

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Mesa 17 is another huge upgrade for me :)

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Quoting: liamdaweValve used to manually add-in new games that added Linux support later, but they stopped doing that.

What they (very obviously) should do, is keeping separate release dates for every platform. I can not understand why they do not do that...

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but unfortunately this shows new games, and filters Linux support. There is no known way to show new games on Linux. For a example Civ6 is not new game but is new on Linux. So no good automated tool. Best way so far to see important games new on linux is seeing articles on gamingonlinux.com...

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will be playable from linux terminal? If not, I am loosing a lot of interest because that would be awesome!

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Quoting: armageddon51While I have a vague idea of what MESA is, how do I install this ? I use Linux Mint cinnamon 18.1 and their nouveau driver with my old ATI card (HD5550). Can I install this MESA thing instead ? Can someone help me with that ? Tx

you have ATI so you are not using "nouveau".

A simple command to give your system info is

inxi -F

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Quoting: AimelaI'm curious, how was gaming in Linux before 2013? I only became aware that Linux was anything more than a CLI OS(as in, completely lacking any GUI elements) in the second half of 2013 and installed Ubuntu for the first time in October of that year, after Steam had officially started supporting linux.

for me it was mainly like this: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/15.10/?page=1 [External Link]

note that this includes dosbox and scummvm.

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