Quoting: MayeulCI hope it is implemented on smartphones as well. STK LANs on Android phones sounds really cool! I could have used it in the bus the other day.

It is; however there's no filtering based on input yet so typically Android users will be at a disadvantage due to touch controls.

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Quoting: GustyGhostI have no problem with building form source except for programs that pollute the rest of my system. Does Supertux Kart stay neatly in it's source folder?

Before you compile you can set the prefix (aka the 'make install' location) to any folder you want, for example I always 'make install' to a folder in my home directory, usually it's /home/user/output. You can do the whole process without using sudo once, I then zip it up and copy it to my other machines :)

Actually there's no reason to do a make install unless you really want to, then you can start it with stk-code/build/bin/supertuxkart
or similar.

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Quoting: SalvatosIs it a bad thing that not everyone in the Linux community is a hardcore activist, that some are just looking for a more respectful system than Windows and Mac OS or simply can't afford proprietary software and rely on FLOSS to have access to computing?

You said it yourself: it's not all black and white. To me open source matters when it comes to things like science, knowledge, and basic functionality like Internet browsing or text processing. I really can't care less about reverse-engineering my music, movies or games and changing the way they work, since they're meant to be distributed and used as a specific experience. Am I a poser for not going full Stallman? If so I don't give a damn, these are my opinions, choices and preferences and I'm not trying to conform to anyone's model of who deserves free software.

Of course there's also the issue of trust and privacy, but frankly it's not like I go and monitor the source code of every piece of free software I use anyway. I see privacy as a losing battle -- every part of the network/system is potentially compromised by corporations, governments as well as individuals -- and if I wanted to win it at all costs I'd probably stop using computers altogether and start growing vegetables in the woods. That doesn't mean I can't make the better choice where it's convenient and sensible to do so.

No it is absolutely not a bad thing, and you seem to be honest about your stances. The problem I have is with loud advocates of Free and/or Open Source software who don't practice what they preach.

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Quoting: tuubiIf you want to run proprietary software, surely it's better to do it on a platform you trust? This is not math and two negatives do not make a positive.

I'm not one to preach free software or anything else really, but I don't see how your views are more pragmatic than the ones you condemn. Convenient for you maybe, but that's hardly the same thing.

It is indeed better, and the reason why I use Windows for most of my gaming is because I play with friends, and three out of four of the games we play the most are not available natively for Linux, and four out of four have minor to large performance issues with Linux. One of them I can't even get to run at all any more. I don't buy single player titles not available for Linux, but my friends are more important to me than what software I run, and I'm honest about that.

What I was trying to say is that if you truly value Free Software, you would not run proprietary games. Even if you only care about whether the source is open or not, be careful when berating others for their choice of closed source software because that veers awfully close to hypocrisy. There's obviously big privacy issues with Windows which are much smaller with games, but privacy and closed source don't really mix too well in general.

It's not a black and white thing, but I see and hear an awful lot of people who are very adamant that Free and/or Open Source software is very important. But then they happily buy proprietary games and even spend an awful lot of time making them run better on Linux, while barely giving any thought or help to games which are Free Software, that thing they supposedly care so much about.

There are not a lot of good Free Software games, but if people showed even remotely the amount of support that proprietary games get to those that exist, guess what, there would be more and better games available under Free and/or Open Source licenses. But it's become clear to me that a lot of the Linux community is not very consistent. Free and Open Source only matters to some, while a good bunch are just posers.

Wow, I have become a bit of a bitter old geezer, haven't I. I guess getting disillusioned does that.

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Quoting: GustyGhostI always bring up freedom and security first. In fact, I don't sell it on what Linux does do, but what it doesn't do.

Linux does not backdoor its disk encryption.

Linux does not forcibly impose system changes.

Linux does not gather massive amounts of telemetry data.

Linux does not censor apps from its repositories.

Linux does not have a universal backdoor.

etc, etc

I wouldn't care if only ten crummy games ever existed for Linux, I would still choose it as my gaming platform because I refuse to let proprietary software make me it's bitch.

Except when it comes to games? Games are still software, and when it comes to many of them, they do collect massive amounts of telemetry and contain DRM. And when it comes to security, Xorg is not designed with separation in mind, so a game installed on your system could easily snoop on what you're doing, including passwords.

I'm a pragmatist myself, and I play proprietary games including on Windows, but unlike many Linux users I don't go around preaching free software while carving out exceptions for myself, like running old or new proprietary games natively or in emulators or compatibility layers which often come with issues.

If anything, I think it's more sympathetic to use proprietary software for work because it's the best tool for the job than willingly choosing to use proprietary software for non-essential entertainment.

In other words, yeah be pragmatic, but don't act so high and mighty at the same time.

(BTW I did not mean to point the finger at you specifically, but the Linux community in general.)

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Amazing how people like to drag down other people's work. I think the Linux gaming community has become somewhat spoiled, and don't even appreciate fully free software anymore. It's pretty much all about proprietary engines and games now.

But I guess that's to be expected because the subset of people who both care about open source and games is incredibly small.

I do play proprietary games myself, but the mainly negative reaction here for this news is disheartening.

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Thanks for the info, so should I get the aquatic update when I'm still using the Java launcher, or do I need to upgrade to the new launcher? Not even sure if I want to do this since I'm using a few mods, and I haven't gotten it so far, maybe because I'm using a profile with mods.

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So let me get this straight, I am currently running the Java version on a server and on my desktop, but now I can run the so-called Bedrock Edition on my Linux server and desktop? Would I be able to run my old world on the new version just with a more interesting sea, and would it have the same features on Linux and Windows? I am a bit confused at the moment.

Oh and I am also running a couple client-side mods, I guess those won't work anymore if I switch to Bedrock?

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Maybe I ought to install Pop!_OS and enable popcon and make popcorn while reading this thread.

Anyway, DRM is one thing, but how about the fact you're running proprietary code you don't know what's doing even if you use GOG. If you're gonna be a hardliner, do it properly.

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But why do that now and not wait for a couple years? What I have works fine right now, and I'm using Kubuntu 18.04 with an NVIDIA card so it would most likely not work well anyway.

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