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Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyYeah.....this is one of the few games that I didn't want on Linux at all.

What's your issue with it?

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I also found that out by going to order, seeing the cost at $13 just for shipping to me :(

They are new though, I hope they can sort minor issues out.

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It matters to me, that's my point. We all have our opinions and you clearly don't mind where as I do.

Will have to agree to disagree on this as the toolkit IS the source of my and others issues.

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@scaine, Again i disagree, people can compare apples to oranges all they like, but in the end my views still stand.

This is more like cooking a pizza with a lightbulb, the tools ALWAYS matter when the tool isn't up for the job. The point is a lightbulb isn't meant to cook a pizza. In the same way that a Windows game isn't meant to be run on Linux, it's meant to be ported in-code.

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Quoting: scaineFolk need to stop going on about the wrapper too. It's utterly irrelevant. What's relevant is the quality of the final product and in this case, for a lot of people, that's what's been lacking.

I have to disagree, the tools used are exactly what causes the issues so it is entirely relevant.

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Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyPeople are allowed to whine about a "port" if it's supposed to work well and doesn't when it's labelled as a full completed port and not any sort of beta, quality is supposed to be expected and we haven't gotten any sort of quality here.

We as in you and some other vocal others. It works well enough for me and some other people.

And what is "well enough" for you?
I expect a 3 year old game to be able to run at stable 60 fps with vsync and lowest quality on a rig with my specifications.

This +whatever.

If it runs like crap on lowest settings for a lot of people, then there is something up. Saying it runs well for a few people doesn't mean anything, it means a few people have a lucky hardware combination as the majority are saying it runs poorly.

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Who cares if it's a AAA game an indie game? If it runs like crap then it runs like crap.

People are allowed to whine about a "port" if it's supposed to work well and doesn't when it's labelled as a full completed port and not any sort of beta, quality is supposed to be expected and we haven't gotten any sort of quality here.

Some people do go overboard in their comments though, but I don't think anyone here has said what you put in quotes.

Just because we are a minority OS does not mean we should be happy with bad ports or they will keep happening. This is why on GOL I always put my opinion on how the game runs in articles when I have tested it so people know what to expect.

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Quoting: neffoRE: this thread. Why in fuck's name are people so upset about getting a great fucking game on Linux?

Have you actually read any of the comments on it? If you did then you would know.

The performance is utterly laughable due to not being a native port and it runs better in Wine.

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100+ comments holy cow.

Copying what I said in the Steam forum topic on it since a VP developer has been posting in there:

I never get the "I'm not a PR guy" reasoning. If you do a major release then have a PR guy ready, that shouldn't be a secret key to success. That should be a bit of common sense.

If you don't do some form of public testing then crap like this will happen, I tell this to every developer who doesn't do a public beta and then sees posts like this.

I've seen the "no houses around to test for Linux", as pointed out the LinuxGameCast (Venn) do a fair bit of testing and could have helped, there's also http://www.gamingonlinux.com [External Link] which could have helped test...but nope neither crew where approached to even do minor testing. Again no outside testing was done AT ALL.

Having THE top end newest generation Intel i5 and an Nvidia 560ti and I see crap performance on LOWEST settings is bloody unacceptable to me. That instantly tells me along with the multitude of other people seeing the same issues that the testing before-hand was utterly flawed.

There are also reports on the Steam forums that some of the people claiming to have great performance are level 0 Steam accounts (meaning a brand new account), it's starting to sound fishy to me: Found one here [External Link], level 0 and hidden profile claiming it's on par with Windows.

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