I'll buy this game.

Egosoft has always been very nice in supporting Linux (thanks timon) and their games in general. And I love this kind of games. ^_^

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Quoting: ShmerlI'd say, if there are no PCIe 4.0 GPUs coming, then there is no need to change the motherboard for Zen 2.

Totally agree.

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Quoting: heidi.wengerWhat about that much talked about "Navi"? So this is not it at all?

Navi will come later. Most of us are surprised to see Vega II at all. It seems AMD has seen an opportunity in the market for it, probably strong 7nm process (and Nvidia skyrocketing prices).

Where do you see this opportunity? The price is about the same. Just because of vram?

I don't right now: I need facts and numbers first.
But since AMD last year wasn't planning a Vega 7nm CPU for desktops, it seems something changed. They probably wouldn't do this if there wasn't some kind of demand or other reason.
But hey, I'm like Jon Snow, I know nothing. :)

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Quoting: ThetargosRyzen 3, though, does look amazing. I was kind of hoping to see if Jim's predictions (from Adored TV) would be confirmed, sadly no. BUT to see an R3 sample at 8c16t (presumably the next R5, from the leaked docs) beat the i9 9900k at Cinebench, and the Epyc demo, really makes me want one!

Actually Jim's predictions about Ryzen are quite accurate. He was quite clear in saying "announcing" and not "launching".

Seeing the 14 nm IO die and so "much" space under the Zen 2 chiplet, I could even imagine a second one chiplet with 8 cores in case AMD wants to do it.

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Quoting: heidi.wengerWhat about that much talked about "Navi"? So this is not it at all?

Navi will come later. Most of us are surprised to see Vega II at all. It seems AMD has seen an opportunity in the market for it, probably strong 7nm process (and Nvidia skyrocketing prices).

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Quoting: edmondoThat's because the doubled the memory bus width up to 4096 for an impressive bandwidth of 1 TB/s.
I think this last value is relevant for performance.

Such bandwidth is only needed because of all the RAM (parallel access). With less RAM they'll need less bandwidth.

It's probably more a question of balance between CUs, VRAM and ROPs (and power consumptions, and a lot more) to get the best performance. It seems to me that Vega II with 60 CUs is a more balanced design with double HBM2 memory bandwith than the first Vega, which even in its greatness it always felt to me like somewhere a little bottlenecked and never running at maximal potential.

And then for sure, marketing reasons like 16 GB is more than 11 GB ;)

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Quoting: Shmerl16GB HBM2 at $700... I hope they'll have 8GB variants. So much VRAM might be good for 3D modeling, but I doubt gaming needs so much yet.

That's because the doubled the memory bus width up to 4096 for an impressive bandwidth of 1 TB/s.
I think this last value is relevant for performance.

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Increased my backlog of games to play with:

• Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun


• XCOM 2 Collection


• Rise of the Tomb Raider


• Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

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I think I'll buy following games:

• XCOM® 2 Collection (73%)


• Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration (80%)

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Quoting: GuestMust resist. Must resist...

Resistance is futile

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