Quoting: tpauI wish we could replace this with element&matrix.

sadly will NEVER happen as will never be enough people using either to gain traction

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: tohurSid? If so last I seen was still release candidate 2 .. I have 0.8.2 built in .debs

Yeah, I'll retest it with 0.8.2 proper to see if latest changes fixed that. Debian shouldn't have jumped the gun and packaged a pre-release version.

Yea it was a bug in the RC2 release because was several games I could not launch.. it motivated me to create my own package to go in my repos and block pulling it from sid archive but its the nature of tracking sid 1:1

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Quoting: ShmerlThis version crashes Cyberpunk 2077 (at least Debian packaged one). Going back to 0.8.1 and will report it to them after some more testing.

Sid? If so last I seen was still release candidate 2 .. I have 0.8.2 built in .debs

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: tohur

Quoting: Cloversheen

Quoting: dpanterYou might be interested in Siduction then.

What would you (personally) say is a strength of going for Siduction over normal sid?

Af far as I know atm the only thing over normal sid is updated Nvidia Drivers as the drivers in normal sid are still quite old. as the rest of the packages they have in their extra and fixes repos are quite old tbh

Then you don't know. :huh:

Siduction is Debian sid + extra goodness. Siduction has in repo stuff like mesa-git, day1 kernel builds with more desktop oriented options than stock sid, even rc kernels. When sid was slacking a while back, the crew rolled their own firmware packages from git. At various points in time we've had nice things in repos like Nvidia beta drivers and corectrl - note that times change and not many in the team use Nvidia these days (pro hint: use cuda repo) and of course corectrl is more or less dead now. Also lots of nice to have stuff for tinkerers, like the awesome chroot-helper tool included in the live iso and a comprehensive manual.

Siduction is imho the ultimate Debian distro (for gamers especially) and has a friendly community.

Note: you are expected to know your way around Linux and Debian, this is not a distro for rookies.

Sid pretty much has latest mesa and who wants to run meas-git as if theres gona be breakage its in the git build. Also LACT is pretty much the replacement for Corectrl as far as GPUs go. Also I know they provide grub-btrfs but even having the snapshots the annoyances of the typical sid breakage gets annoying.

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Quoting: Cloversheen

Quoting: dpanterYou might be interested in Siduction then.

What would you (personally) say is a strength of going for Siduction over normal sid?

Af far as I know atm the only thing over normal sid is updated Nvidia Drivers as the drivers in normal sid are still quite old. as the rest of the packages they have in their extra and fixes repos are quite old tbh

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: tohurThis one the reasons I moved on to developing my own distro. I based it on Debian sid

You might be interested in Siduction then.
https://siduction.org/ [External Link]

Tried it.. it tracks sid 1:1 which introduces breakage .. my Distro tracks 1:1 in my staging repos where it will get tested before moving to my stable repo.. already have it running this way. I ran siduction for while years back but as I said it tends to have package breakage often

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Quoting: AdutchmanI'm kind off dissapointed in the discourse here tbh (like with a lot of Fedora stuff among other things). Black and white thinking and bad faith takes are more common on GoL comment sections nowadays, which unfortunately makes the whole place less welcoming imo.

Personally, I think people are being quite harsh and unconstructive when they write of the distro after this decision, especially when they are still in the process of finding a solution. Critisizing them for making a SIG is really confusing to me, why would it be a bad thing to bring a attention to it?

We're talking about FOSS software here, most people are doing this work in their free time and nobody's perfect, and I can imagine that people get frustrated. If we look at the forum discussion, the moderator was trying to move the discussion back to something constructive. That's not the same as "toxic positivity" imo.

I have been using Fedora for years now, and it is generally quite stable, I think they're doing a pretty good job, especially considering they're at the leading edge of package versions.

They SHOULDN'T NEED a SIG.. stability should be a thing REGARDLESS considering they make 6 month releases... as much people claim they are "semi rolling" they take the stance of numbered releases.. also they KNEW the mesa package was broken but push it out as an update ANYWAY because in their words Steam is closed sourced so they didn't care

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This one the reasons I moved on to developing my own distro. I based it on Debian sid but I have a "staging" repo that pulls in all the latest packages and I run on this repo myself so I am always testing it then after I feel there are no major issues such as this and feel its stable I push it to my stable repo. I use aptly for all this so the way I use it even pulling in fresh packages it NEVER pulls in out right broken packages with how aptly does dependency resolving for incoming packages if you are snapshotting .. so really the only point in my staging repo is to test actual package stability and hopfully one day I have other people testing with me so my distro hopefully never has these types of issues

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Quoting: torkel104Can you toggle vsync yet?

For gaming on KDE that LONG been fixed and as far as the desktop if you have VRR it uses that if you have it turned on and if not it uses Vsync.. I don't understand though why on Earth you would want to turn that off on the desktop itself... would be a screen tearing mess

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Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: tohurLutris is pretty much a dead project.

There is activity on the dev channel but they are very slow to release on the stable channel.

I like Lutris. I am going to give Heroic a serious look, however. Some of my Lutris prefixes have been inexplicably corrupting after months (if not years) of working fine. Since I have to reinstall them anyway, I figure I might as well give Heroic a go.

I been thinking of doing the same myself or giving Faugus Launcher a go. I been busy af lately building a Linux Distro so haven't gotten around to migrating away from lutris myself

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