Whenever Steam key giveaway takes place I feel guilty. It's not ok to receive a product if you didn't pay for it.
However I added this game to library for one reason - when it was on a free weekend I didn't enjoy it, because of a poor hardware. I didn't upgrade the hardware since that moment. The game will wait in my library until my hardware is ready - if the game is alive and fun when I'm ready - I will pay for it.

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Quoting: NanobangHmmmm ... Teslagrad ... Teslagrad ... Let me think. Nope, I give up. I remember the name. Ah, after a quick glance at Steam, I do remember this game. I never bought it, though. Mayhap because of my entirely irrational prejudice towards dimensions lacking Zulu coordinates. Looking back at it, though, I've decided to add it to my wishlist. After all, I own and enjoy all of the Trine games, even the dimensionally challenged ones.

Purchasing World to the West is a no-brainer. It looks beautiful, clever, poignant, and --- most importantly --- it looks fun. It promises everything Teslagrad did, and an extra dimension to boot! I so love to love them that love Linux. :)

If you haven't played Teslagrad yet - I strongly recommend you do. I played the game after reading it is great on this side and was very impressed by the game - even if I'm not Indie games big fan. I had hard time while trying to accept how main character looks like, but after some time I forgot about this and I finished whole game in one weekend. And it became one of my top 5 games played on Linux.

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Dying Light - it took me really long to get on board, because I was in love in the way the Zombie apocalypse was presented in The Last of Us. In The Last of Us when you made a noise it was super hard to survive. In Dying Light most of the zombies are slow, and the one that you can wake are easy to beat. In The Last of Us when you were loud for a moment it was guaranteed that you will die. And it made more sense (Plus The Last of Us was golden in general).

But 2 weeks ago I finally managed to spend more time with this game and I love it so far. I finished 61% of main plot and hope to finish main story next week. Of course if I have enough time.

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The day Witcher 3 is playable on Wine will be milestone for me. Next steps will be GTA V and Fallout 4.
Having those titles playable will be great and it would be easier to convince people who like playing games to switch to Linux when Windows 7 looses it's support.

Of course there was a moment when Windows XP lost it's support and Linux missed it. One of the reasons was that Wine wasn't mature enough. With Wine in such a good shape it would be a good moment to take a little more from the market.
Microsoft tried to force people to upgrade to Windows 10 because they see the risk of loosing part of the market when support for Windows 7 ends. Unfortunately for them, they put so many questionable solutions to it's newer system, that some people didn't want to upgrade.

If they will have alternative (to Windows) system, that would allow them to play their favorite games and wouldn't spy them on every interaction with the system, they may consider it as a viable alternative.

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Quoting: STiATThere is no reason to believe that CDPR is going to Vulkan at all. They use HLSL compiler for Cyberpunk, so.. no Vulkan there. Maybe DX12 if even, CDPR is not known to be adopting technology fast. Maybe for titles after Cyberpunk.

Bethe is another topic. They have been always negative about Linux, but if they port to Vulkan I believe we could get some nice performance using wind (or similar, maybe newer and lesa cluttered solution).

Instead of using wind I would use flame. Or water! Or stone!

Quoting: ShmerlWaiting to test TW3 in Wine staging, once patches will catch up. Guillaume Charifi from Wine developers claims, that he tested tesselation shaders implementation, and got such results:

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These patches don't seem to be public though.

It seems that Wine is reaching a point when it will be possible to run Witcher 3. The day it will be possible to fluently play the whole game would be IMO a milestone for Wine. And I can't wait this day.

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Quoting: throgh

Quoting: commodore256Windows having the ability to run new windows apps and new OS/2 Apps, (if any) but OS/2 was only compatible with legacy Windows ruined the viability of OS/2 just like the ability to only run legacy Windows on Linux is ruining the viability of Linux.

Why do you ever want to run newer Windows applications on Linux? Newer games should be done as native applications for Linux and WINE is very good for older classics.

@throgh in perfect world you're right. But you need to see that Valve and Ubisoft/EA are competitors because of Uplay and Origin platforms. This means that those companies won't release Linux versions of their games, because they have no interest in it. What's more - other bigger publishers are not on Linux board yet. CD Projekt RED did not release Witcher 3 even if Valve claimed they will, Rockstar and Bethesda are not interested in Linux, so it's very unlikely that there will be Linux version of games like:
GTA V, Witcher 3, Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, Watch Dogs 2, Far Cry 4, FIFA 17, and so on and so on.
One approach is just to ignore those titles (and of course this is best for the platform - ignore titles that are not released and support publishers with games that are published, give money to companies that support your market).
But you should take a look at the titles of the games I mentioned - look at numbers next to the game name - 5 (ignoring Vice City etc.), 3, 5, 2, 4, 17 (actualy 24) [External Link]. Some people fell in love with some of this franchises back in the days when they used Windows. And they just want to play their favourite franchise and they don't want to be forced to have Windows installed on their PCs again. Such a people would choose Wine if it would run the game on decent frame rate. And it's not something that is impossible - Wine made huge progress last years. Take a look how Doom works on Vulkan renderer with Wine. [External Link]Take a look at this comparison. [External Link] Do you think that such a performance is bad? I don't. That's why I don't think that newest games cannot be ported with Wine.
Of course Doom is very different than most of the games that are available on the market - it does come with Vulkan and OpenGL renderer while most of the games we have problem with have DirectX renderers.
But if you have doubts regarding Wine being useful for newer games - take a look at manero666 thread. He did great work. You will be able to see many great games running without an issue on Wine, including DIRT 3 that I loved and some popular games, for example Fallout 3 or PES 2017. Of course maybe we have different understanding of term "older classic" - I see it as games released at least 10 years ago.

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Quoting: lucinosIn my case wine was pretty unimportant.

I must say that I am pleased we have all kind of users on this page - people who did not use Wine at all, people who used if from time to time and people who use it very often.
Personally I very often failed while trying to play a game that I used to love. But also - without a Wine I wouldn't be able to finish the Witcher or DIRT 3: Complete Edition.
What's more - thanks to Wine I received Linux version of the game that I love - Knights & Merchants.
And even if there are minor issues while playing Wine games, as I said I see Wine as very important project.
Of course Wine is not only about games, but for us, gamers, it is crucial to be up-to-date with games, that did not receive Linux versions. And when the day comes, that Wine will support DX11 in a way it will run Witcher 3, GTA V or Fallout 4 - I'm confident that many users will actually be very happy.

What's more as I said in previous post in this thread - I would love to have Wine ports of games that are ranked from platinum to silver available on Steam. The most important gain of using Steam is that you have all your games in one place and you don't have to install all the dependencies of the game - you just download the game and play it. And configuring Wine prefix is the biggest dissadvantage of Wine.
If Valve would somehow reword publishers that release titles as Wine ports if they are platinium/gold/silver and mark them as Wine / Beta versions, it would be brilliant. Steam OS would have bigger library, publishers would be reworded, Linux gamers would have bigger library, players on Windows will see that SteamOS expands.
Of course it would have disadvantage (and that's something that makes this whole wish unrealistic) - some of the titles would have serious issues, and people who would like to play those games would start the shitstorm - why the released game does not work or works partially.

Anyway, I wish myself and all you guys a great state of Wine.

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Quoting: liamdaweThere will always be games and applications that simply won't come to Linux for a variety of reasons.

Quoting: [email protected]Wine IS one of those reasons.

Sure, you're right, it is one of the reasons. But I have an impression that you don't want to see bigger picture here. I guess you refer to situations in which game or application is not ported because it is already available on Linux through Wine. Sure, it happens - I bet for example Bethesda may not be interested in porting some of it's games because some of them are available on Wine (Skyrim, Doom). But Wine IS one of the reasons, why people stop to dual boot. Wine IS one of the reasons why people can use applications from Windows library on their Linux machines.

Personally, I would love to have Wine ports of all the games that are rated from Platinum to silver on Steam. Even if they would have issues. They could have been marked with small Wine icon or tagged in some way. But there would be one serious information available for Valve - every Linux gamer would use Linux version of Steam. They wouldn't be recognized as Windows players, and therefore Linux gamers would be better counted in sourveys.
And what's important - Linux games library would contain some seriously cool games.

What's more - Wine has prooved with Doom, that even if developer won't decide to release Linux version of the game, if they will use Vulkan it will be much easier to have the game on the Linux. It may end in initial wrapped ports, growing market, bigger interest in the Linux market and more native games in the end.

To sum up - Better shape of Wine is good news. WINE IS GOOD NEWS.

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How does the gamepads support look like?

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I don't get one thing. When Witcher 2 was ported by VP and was using only one CPU core there was a madness in the comments - everyone was saying that VP ssucks and such a ports are pointless.
Almost 3 years later Aspyr releases port that uses only one CPU and everyone is giving huge credit to them.
My question is - why? Do you care so much about VP using eON wrapper? Is the fact that original code is still there (so not Linux specific)? Or is it related to the fact that Civ VI is newer game than Witcher 2 was when it was ported to Linux?

I seriously ask, I don't want to start shitstorm. I'm just curious.

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