Quoting: LoftyThis is one of the things people have been asking for almost immediately when reading the comments on videos about the deck.
Valve are really listening to use feedback here. What i like about this is that people are coming into the experience with a PC mindset rather than a switch /console mindset, they seem to be actually enjoying tweaking the settings and the setting of profiles will aid that aswell, as perhaps sharing performance profiles will in future.

So far the overall impression im getting from reviewers is very positive (apart from one atrociously naive web article from a UK gaming website) and at the moment there hasn't been a glut of 'just install windows' videos which is testament to Valve working on Steam OS 3.0 specific feature sets. Im kind of hoping that if you have a AMD Laptop/Desktop you will be able to install Steam OS 3.0 and get all the same features. And im also hoping that they don't add these to the windows version of steam UI as frankly this is our last gambit at getting real Linux gaming to the masses.

I have seen a few videos pointing out that they are really at SteamOS 3.2(?). So I honestly think at this point they will NOT release a SteamOS 3.x ISO and are waiting until the Deck is at SteamOS 4.0 before they have one for generic hardware. We all know that Valve does not believe in the number 3!

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I'm hoping they fix the 'click through' on the keyboard for touch screen.

Where is it that you provide feedback? I missed it somehow, I'd like to see if there is something they can figure out about the proton vs native cloud sync issues I ran into. I've ran into a few other little bugs here and there as well. Amazing device otherwise!

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI remember the old days when Nvidia made chipsets for Intel processors

Didn't they also make AMD ones? Seems to me I would stay away from the Ali, SIS, etc because I always had random issues with those (the main reason I stayed away from AMD based systems for so long).

Recapping these old Pentium era systems are going to suck, but hey, I haven't huffed flux fumes in a while. :P

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Quoting: crt0megaThe onboard NIC shipped with my Crosshair IV Hero died a couple of months ago.

Do you have frequent power surges? I have found NICs usually trip something and pulling all power from it for 30 secods or so should reset it. I used to swap between two PCI NICs long ago because one would stop working then I would put in the other and it would work until the next power surge.

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Quoting: rcrit

Quoting: slaapliedjeI meant being able to upgrade from RHEL 7 to 8, like you can go from Fedora 30, to 36..

Fair point. There is limited support to upgrade 7 to 8. I know there are some packages/products, IPA server for one, that cannot be upgraded this way. IIRC RHEL 7 was based on Fedora 19 and RHEL 8 on F28. That's quite a leap in a single upgrade.

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html-single/upgrading_from_rhel_7_to_rhel_8/index

To be fair, with RHEL, you can upgrade. With CentOS, they purposefully broke it. It is one of the key differences. Granted CentOS is basically dead at this point.

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Quoting: M@GOid

Quoting: slaapliedjeBut at least one thing remains the same... non-ASUS motherboards sucked in the past and they still kind of suck :P

I have 2 Asus mobos here that beg to differ. Both stopped working right after their 1 year warranty expired... Meanwhile, I also have mobos from other manufacturers (like Gigabyte) that still going strong after a 10 year period.

I have had the most random issues when I've gone with others than Asus. Like I had an MSI board that would randomly lose USB. Only fix was to pull the CMOS battery out and put it back in.

Reason I started using Asus back in the day was because the first system I built had a motherboard with such a bad layout that two of the PCI slots couldn't be used because they'd placed the BIOS chip right between the back of the case and the slot.

Hmm, I thought most boards I've bought from Asus have a 3 year warranty? I've also had pretty poor luck with most AMD CPU based boards I've tried over the years (that above MSI board, and a couple other weird issues with them, usually bugs in the bios. Though the one in my current desktop system has been really solid).

I have a gigabyte board in my living room PC. I haven't been terribly impressed with it, but it's been pretty solid so far.

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Quoting: rcrit

Quoting: slaapliedjeSure would be splendid if Fedora's upgrade actually would carry into RHEL and RHEL based distributions...

I'm sure it would be a nightmare. Depending on what release of RHEL you migrate to most packages would be a downgrade (by version at least, if not functionality).

But if you're game you could try https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introduction-convert2rhel-now-officially-supported-convert-rhel-systems-rhel

I don't know if it would work but since it's just rpms who knows. RHEL 9 was released today and is the most likely to work IMHO.

I meant being able to upgrade from RHEL 7 to 8, like you can go from Fedora 30, to 36..

Cool, I have a RHEL9 VM on my macbook I should update. As I couldn't install the version of 8 for ARM as it is not compatible with the vmware on the M1.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: slaapliedjeThe industry is so weird. We basically went from so many people making CPUs and GPUs to basically 2 for CPUs and 3 for GPUs

Don't look now, but that isn't weird. That kind of "consolidation" has happened in industry after industry over the last few decades. It's currently the biggest driver of inflation--so many areas without meaningful competition, where corporate honchos have realized that with supply chain bottlenecks etc. they have gorgeous excuses to jack prices up way further than those problems actually warrant, and nobody will undercut them 'cause they're practically monopolies.

One thing I notice about this announcement--China is now officially the world's main economic superpower, not the US. New high-tech products are being rolled out first in China now, because that's where they're made and because the market is there. Stick a fork in US hegemony, it's done.

Ha, you are right, weird isn't the right word. Fucking annoying... yup that is the right word. I miss things like Matrox, and Amiga. Look at the Role-playing industry. This is one that is now 50 years old, so actually about the same as the personal computer market. There are still TONS of actively developed and supported systems out there. While most still revolve around the big two (Pathfinder and D&D), there are so many other great ones.
Only reason I can see why is due to D&D mostly being a toy made by a toy company, and others are made by passionate people who love the hobby. Of course it doesn't hurt with the amount of people who end up making up their own systems because of the shortcomings of whichever one they started with. Ha, kind of like how we have so many Desktop Environments.

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Quoting: Guesti'm currently using the Nobara Project OS which is Fedora with extra's for gaming. It has being on 36 for a while with very little issues, hopefully this update will fix all of those :D

Curious, what makes it more 'gaming' than Fedora? I'm considering something for my AtariVCS to get it to boot straight into either Steam BPM, or do the tweak so it's using the Steam Deck interface. But am wondering if I should just stick to Debian Sid, or install Fedora 36... I guess either doesn't matter as long as the kernel and mesa libraries are up to date for it. I usually stick to either or, as there aren't many Linux distros that support the Secure Boot out of the box.

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Quoting: drlamb

QuoteSometime over the next week I'll be doing the upgrade, hopefully it will go smoothly. As this will be likely my first full distro version upgrade ever when using Fedora.

Unlike Ubuntu, I've never had any issues with Fedora's upgrade procedure. I'm so confident with it that I haven't waited for the stable release to upgrade in years.

Sure would be splendid if Fedora's upgrade actually would carry into RHEL and RHEL based distributions...

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