The industry is so weird. We basically went from so many people making CPUs and GPUs to basically 2 for CPUs and 3 for GPUs, though Intel always tried to make GPUs, they were wimpy integrated ones. So now they try to step up... would be nice if there were more competition out there and more innovation going on. As it has been, it's basically been nVidia innovating and AMD catching up. Playing around with old computers reminds me of two things, 1) they should likely all get recapped. 2) There used to be So many variants on graphics, sound, chipset, etc. Computers have gotten kind of boring... But at least one thing remains the same... non-ASUS motherboards sucked in the past and they still kind of suck :P

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Quoting: pete910

Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: mihalycsabaSo is there any performance improvements on an AMD machine compared to a regular arch install?

I don't think so. If you really want to test, install Valve's kernel (neptune) to regular Arch.

Would that not be tuned for the SOC in the deck though ?

I mean is there really such a need for the kernel to be tuned for particular hardware? Generally speaking when people suggest such a thing, it isn't like there is a bunch of code changes to drivers, and such. My guess is the SoC is already in the mainline kernel, and AMD hasn't made much effort in adding drivers for it under Windows, because they consider it like an embedded system.

'Tuning' a kernel for specific hardware usually just entails not compiling a bunch of stuff in that isn't needed beyond support of the hardware on the system, which makes a lot of sense, and would also make sense why the generic SteamOS 3.0 hasn't been released yet (as you'd have to put all the hardware support back in).

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Quoting: MisterPaytwickOut of curiosity (and laziness, let's be honest), is there a way to get an ETA of Steam Deck shipment?

After purchase I think it took them 4 days to ship for mine. But then it showed up on Saturday instead of Monday like the initial estimate. All in, I paid on Thursday, and got it the next week on Saturday.

One thing I noticed yesterday... no Control on the keyboard?

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Quoting: KROMI'm a little bit late to this party, but since I recently started looking into modding my games, I'm trying this guide to move files to my deck.

One thing I'd like to mention is that, when you don't have a mouse+keyboard+monitor attached to your deck, you might want to look into the software "Barrier", which is available in Discover.

You install it on the deck and your main computer, run it as server on your main and as a client on your deck and then you can share your keyboard+mouse with the deck, which is super helpful. You can also share the clipboard, which, again, is super helpful.

Just one thing, in my case I had to disable SSL on both the client and the server, otherwise it would not work for me. But that's easy (F4 (or "Barrier" -> "Change Settings") -> "Enable SSL" to off).

Just thought that might be useful info to some of you. :)

I went the lazy route and enabled ssh on the deck, and just use Nautilus / Dolphin to mount up the directory to copy files over.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: wit_as_a_riddle

Quoting: WorMzyGiven how hit and miss this verification system seems to be, the number is entirely meaningless.

The miss percentage is way under 1%, so this take is downright goofy.

Of the games in my library marked as unsupported at least 11 should work fine on Linux (most of them natively), of 131 rated at all. That's 8%.

But my bigger worry is games marked as playable or verified which just stop working (like reported on this very site). The number of games is not the most important aspect in my humble opinion, it's the "stability" of support.

What's supported mustn't stop working.

The problem I think comes from the rapid development of Proton. I had to look up on ProtonDB for Conan Exiles, for example, to find that it needs Proton 6.3 to work. Setting some games to a specific version should in theory make it always work.

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Quoting: RossBCPut it on the desktop and laptop today, only the desktop mode works for me (nvidia desktop and old intel laptop)

But it works super stable in x11 plasma desktop.

You can install things like heroic and discord normally without flatpaks.

nvidia isn't the easiest to get going but, its not too bad.

Instructions for install and x11 plasma desktop with nvidia
It gives two options to install,
neptune and core/linux
core/linux option 2 is the way to go.

It'll have a prompt after loading in selection saying type holoinstall to install.
you then enter the drive you want to install too, after some basic installation it'll ask for computer name, user name and password then continue the installation.(internet connection is required for this, downloads 4-5~ gigs)

On next reboot go into grub (hold shift after bios screen if it doesn't show up)
there will be 3 options to load
Steamos should be the top one.

Press c or e (i forget which it is, its listed on the screen use your eyes) to do a one time boot edit.
there will be a line that looks like this.

linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux-neptune root=UUID=d22fd341-dfca-4769-875c-05ef50eb3782 rw loglevel=3 quiet

change it too

linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux-neptune root=UUID=d22fd341-dfca-4769-875c-05ef50eb3782 rw loglevel=3 nomodeset=1

in other words remove the quiet and put nomodeset=1 at the end

the quiet is removed so you can see where it stops loading.

When it stops loading, hold control + alt and press F2 to open a new user session in terminal.

login as the user you added during installation.

install the kernel headers.

sudo pacman -S linux-neptune-headers

this is for taste as it works. install nvidia with TKGs nvidia all from github

cd /goto/some/folder/you/want/to/put/some/git/stuff

git clone https://github.com/Frogging-Family/nvidia-all.git [External Link]
cd nvidia-all

makepkg -si

#it will complain about kernel headers during the process a few times ignore it, it still finds them.
During the install process pick the nvidia driver you want, make sure you pick DKMS driver module.
nvidia should now work, you will ONLY BE ABLE TO USE THE DESKTOP x11 plasma.

Edit: Kdesudo doesn't seem to work unless you change the root users password
sudo passwd root
enter then re enter the new password
gui root should now work properly

Restart your pc, at the login screen, top left should be the desktop select drop down, select the x11 plasma desktop option.

your good to go. have fun if you want to have a crack at it.

Does this have a proper installer, and not one that 'wipes all the drives in the system'?

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Quoting: StalePopcornThat's cool. I just realized that (IMO) Linux is very compatible with Steam as they seem to have always been okay with others taking their projects and "running with it/rolling their own" and even making some money off the side project.

It's really interesting if you think about it, of the why we actually have Steam on Linux in the first place.

MS sees Apple and Android and thinks "Hey, I want that! I get a cut off people selling stuff?" and Valve seeing how Apple only allows their own app store, and figures MS will do the same thing, so know that their time is short and they really need to jump off with both feet running! But when the Microsoft store does what most of their non-office/windows stuff does and turns out to be a pile of poo, they were never able to really get the developers, developers, developers to utilize their crappy stuff. If they had, Valve's fears would almost certainly have come true.

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Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: WorMzyGiven how hit and miss this verification system seems to be, the number is entirely meaningless. What would be a better metric is: how many devs have they convinced to release and maintain native Linux versions of their games? :wink:

we already have this number, its called "linux" or "steamOS/linux", sigh.
and no, native versions arent nescessary better, proton seems to have an better support at least from the short term and for old games.

I pointed out elsewhere that a weird example I ran into is Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance. It has a native version that runs every single bit as well as the Windows version under Proton. But they don't have cloud sync working correctly between Proton launched version on the Steam Deck, and the Linux version launching on my desktop. I went into the settings on the Steam Deck and changed the compatibility to Steam Linux Runtime, and now cloud sync works fine.

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Quoting: Jpxe

Quoting: Philadelphus2,500! Only, what, ~55,000 more to go? :grin:

I kid, but obviously that's still a good milestone to hear. Wonder how high the number'll be by the time I finally get my order email in Q3?

I wonder how many of the games actually have players.. There's a lot of asset flips with zero or just a couple of reviews.

I did some digging on steamdb

- 528 games have had over 1000 concurrent players in the last 24 hours
- ~4800 games have had over 1000 concurrent players all-time
- ~8500 games have a rating above 80%.

Not to mention... is that individual games, or does that include DLC. I mean if you count DLC, then Crusader Kings II is like 50 games by itself, right?

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Quoting: KROMWhat's also very bad is, that it gives me haptic feedback for my keypress, even when it ignores my input.
For desktop mode I've installed an alternative keyboard which works really well. I really do hope that Valve will make the Steam keyboard more enjoyable.

Yeah. You want to have some 'joy'? Try to reply to a discussion on Steam while in 'Deck Mode'. That's where I found if you use the touch screen, you click behind the keyboard. It usually is smart enough to pop up or down on the screen based on where your cursor is, but seems to be broken on this particular function, so the keyboard was covering up my reply box. I ended up replying on my desktop system instead.

Edit: I too have had the haptic feedback without the actual input working. Like a lot.

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