Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GuestSeems like I'm getting old.

I could tell by your name... :-D

Hey, the DVD format came on the market only about 25 years ago. Old for tech, but still pretty young for a human.

Now maybe if his name was LaserDisc... :)

LaserDisc is even older than I thought. The format originated in the late 70s. I still need to tear mine apart so I can fix the belts / drive eject... and they are not the easiest things in the world to repair...

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Quoting: KimyrielleI remember me reluctantly going back to dual-booting Windows for gaming after Loki folded and after I moved on from the only two other games I was playing that were running on Linux (Neverwinter Nights and - on WINE - Guild Wars 1).

I thought gaming on Linux was dead forever.

A decade later, I can play almost 100% of all games I'd ever want to play on Linux and my Win 10 partition is collecting virtual dust.

How times have changed! \o/

Ah, the joy of trying to keep the 'How to play Neverwinter Nights on Ubuntu' forum post up to date. Can't recall the last time I logged into the Ubuntu forums though, but there was a time in my life where I practically lived there!

Now it's too easy to play NWN:EE on Linux, still missing the tools though :P

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Quoting: lucinosI would guess a big part of the flatpak is fedora, if I am not mistaken they push it more than other distros.

Also there is a snap that Ubuntu pushes, right? Is that showing up on this? Or are the Ubuntu ones installed via apt?

Also wondering if Debian is just classified as Ubuntu, as I don't see it on this list at all.

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Quoting: STiAT

Quoting: BeamboomOh ffs. Do even windows users use that one? What does the browser stats say?

We do. Company policies. IE got phased out (and I really love that), we're not allowed to install anything, and Edge Chromium rolled out instead of IE as default browser.

If I had a choice I'd use Firefox, but I ain't got a choice, and Edge is better than living with the old IE at work.

Hopefully they pay well, I would have been looking elsewhere if tied down to that! Oof.

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Quoting: Solitary

Quoting: LoftyRemote play never fully worked for me. i managed to get a friend to see the video/audio feed but the controllers were never detected. they were on windows and of course i was on Linux ;)
we tried everything. I even tried it on two local machines both connected to the internet, both running Linux on separate steam accounts and nope.. nothing.

it could be my firewall, but id rather not have to open ports to the outside world just to have a (admittedly cool) feature i don't often use. my desktops of course have a standard firewall enabled for good measure but nothing out of the ordinary.

We had similar issues with Remote Play Together like you describe (controller didn't work), and we tried remote playing together using two linux Steam clients, no Windows there. What actually worked in the end was that the other person used the flatpak Steam Link app. Maybe try similar approach, I think Steam Link app should also exist for Windows.

Hmm, I may have to try this with my brother.

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Quoting: TheRiddickEdge is just Chrome, just like Vivaldi and all the others. However I wouldn't be surprised if Edge has MS own telemetry tracking crap going on that follows you all over the webs recording your actions... no thanks!

Yeah, unless they are willing to put the entire source code on github and it compiles and binary matches, then I wouldn't touch it.
Same reason I don't use Chrome / Chromium, unless I absolutely have to. I prefer using Epiphany, Konqueror or Firefox. Browsers should be open source for sure. One closed source browser I do use is IBrowse on the Amiga, but then the choices there are fairly limited. 😜

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Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Liam DaweIt's actually more popular than Firefox overall, going by multiple stats websites.

Sure, since MS has all but crammed it down the throats of it's users. With literal ads sprinkled into Windows to use it instead of whatever else you're using.

I've not been on Windows for decades now, but I have a friend who got a new PC just last week with latest Windows version on. He's not too computer literate (to put it mildly) but had a go at installing the apps he was used to use from before.
He called me the other day to tell me that he was warned against installing Firefox on his computer and felt he had to ask me if he could or should still install it.

Let me say that again. He were fucking warned, by an app installed with the operating system (Edge, I presume - I don't know) to NOT install Firefox. I haven't seen the message, but the way he perceived the warning was that Firefox was an unsafe browser to use.

My jaw dropped. The nerve of that company... The nerve!

Quoting: Nocifer

Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Liam DaweIt's actually more popular than Firefox overall, going by multiple stats websites.

Sure, since MS has all but crammed it down the throats of it's users. With literal ads sprinkled into Windows to use it instead of whatever else you're using.

I've not been on Windows for decades now, but I have a friend who got a new PC just last week with latest Windows version on. He's not too computer literate (to put it mildly) but had a go at installing the apps he was used to use from before.
He called me the other day to tell me that he was warned against installing Firefox on his computer and felt he had to ask me if he could or should still install it.

Let me say that again. He were fucking warned, by an app installed with the operating system (Edge, I presume - I don't know) to NOT install Firefox. I haven't seen the message, but the way he perceived the warning was that Firefox was an unsafe browser to use.

My jaw dropped. The nerve of that company... The nerve!

As much as I hate the practice, your friend was probably only warned to not install an "unknown app" downloaded from the internet, which is a standard protection scheme on Windows. Warning him out and out about a competing product like Firefox is so illegal that in fact MS have already been legally condemned for this exact practice a few years back and forced via a Windows Update patch to offer their users the explicit choice to install third-party browsers.

That said, the incident is still very concerning (no less because this warning system very often ends up serving as a blatant if underhanded way to monopolize the market in MS's favor, and though the legislators know about it they choose to ignore it as long as it doesn't explicitly break the law) and it goes to show that we're in deep trouble as far as the browser wars are concerned. Just the other day I happened to check the browser market shares for the first time in years, and I was shocked to see that Firefox is down to ~3,5% on the desktop. Not 15%, not 10%, three and an effing half. Yup, we're in very deep sh-- trouble.

Quoted both of you, it's actually a thing, I've seen it myself.

What happened is that Mozilla was all proud that they finally 'cracked' the Windows API to make it properly change the browser default to Firefox. MS put in a little warning that Firefox was trying to change defaults and that's a no no. As it is, when Windows 10 originally launched, you had to do all sorts of shenanigans to get Firefox to be your default browser. If you look in the default apps for Windows 10, it's pretty stupid. Like who the hell wants or even asked for Groove Music? And you can't remove it. It's there permanently. Windows 10 removes a lot of freedoms.

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Quoting: Projectile VomitSo I was willing to give it a run, just to see the difference, and "Cannot install from unsigned repo".

That was encouraging.

Ha ha ha! Brilliant. I'm guessing this is one of those .deb/.rpms that create a repo file to get updates from (their Teams install does the same) and they forgot to include the signing portion.

Projectile Vomit... Trying Edge on Linux. Name checks out.

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Quoting: rea987Only reason that I would allow it in my PC alongside with Firefox and Chromium would be to be able to watch Netflix 4K but it's still not happening on Linux. Hence, I'll pass.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444 [External Link]

Edit: Out of curiosity I downloaded and installed Edge to see whether at least 1080p Netflix streaming is available aaaaaand it couldn't play a thing on Netflix. lol Though, it's probably Netflix's end as they are quite strict with browser support, they probably block Edge on Linux due to unknown user agent.

On the other hand, I am able to stream 1080p on Firefox thanks to Netflix 1080p add-on.

https://addons.mozilla.org/tr/firefox/addon/netflix-1080p-firefox/ [External Link]

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80018592 [External Link]

Heh, I recently bought a 77" OLED LG TV, when I logged into the Netflix app on it, it prompted me to upgrade to the 4k version of Netflix. When I finally got around to trying to test it, my bandwidth simply wasn't enough to sustain the quality. Not everyone has gigabit internet available to them...

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: BeamboomOh ffs. Do even windows users use that one? What does the browser stats say?

It's actually more popular than Firefox overall, going by multiple stats websites.

Sure, since MS has all but crammed it down the throats of it's users. With literal ads sprinkled into Windows to use it instead of whatever else you're using.

Funny, wonder if they'll ever release a non-broken, non-preview of Teams. Though it truly is the worse piece of software I've used since Outlook...

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