Quoting: Mountain ManI have to assume you're a paid shill for Microsoft engaging in the age old practice of astroturfing forums with FUD about Linux.

You're exactly the type of moronic zealot I've been talking about, ignorant as fuck.

It's pointless when the community consists of people like you.

People have serious issues but individuals like this take it they have to be involved in some kind of conspiracy against Linux, just because they state the obvious. You sir, are a very poor character.

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Quoting: NyamiouWithout examples this argument is worthless.

There is no such thing as a worthless argument if a user is talking from experience. On a side note, I am not to be confused for a Windows fan. I've been running Linux since 2010, mostly Ubuntu and derivatives, but I've tried others as well.

For some reason often when I comment on something on a site focused on Linux and I provide honest feedback I get this impression of hostility, that people often seem ignorant of others' frustration just because something works for them. Well, good for you, bad for me, but it's true that Linux has a lot of issues people should admit.

For your convenience I will name L4D2, a fairly old game on my laptop, which is a Lenovo G50-45, full specs below:

System:    Host: Lenovo-G50-45 Kernel: 3.19.0-23-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.0 Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid
Machine:   System: LENOVO product: 80E3 v: Lenovo G50-45
           Mobo: LENOVO model: Lancer 5B2 v: 31900058 STD
           Bios: LENOVO v: A2CN36WW(V2.04) date: 04/30/2015
CPU:       Quad core AMD A6-6310 APU with AMD Radeon R4 Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 1800 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1200 MHz 3: 1400 MHz
           4: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics]
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD MULLINS
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.2
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kabini HDMI/DP Audio
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.19.0-23-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169
           Card-3: Atheros
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (9.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST1000LM014 size: 1000.2GB

With this configuration on Windows I can run the game nicely on around 80 FPS, zero lag, full details.

On Linux I have to lower settings below medium and still can't get past 25 FPS on average with terrible lag spikes, frame drops to 1. I even use Xfce for lower resource usage.

This example has to suffice.

Note: I've tried proprietary drivers, they break my system.

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I understand the uncertainty people have when approaching Linux.

The lack of proper support creates a huge difference that I see on my system running both Win 7 and Ubuntu. Some of the titles I play are considerably behind in performance on Linux. Some are the same, but for this to be a market worth entering vendors need to cooperate better.

The same performance on all platforms is the goal.

I also forgot to mention, that a lot of unfinished, unpolished, buggy stuff is constantly released because people want to "innovate". There's not much enjoyable about innovation if ordinary consumers are left with bugged systems with no foreseeable patches.

My system is a perfect example, where I can't even launch LibreOffice without crashing my entire session (I already reported an Xorg bug, let's see how long will it take them to fix it. It's taking already more than 6 months.) Then there's the microphone not working and I'm not even going to continue.

So much for people entering Linux.

Linus said, that it bothers him, that Linux is doing great as a server platform but not as a desktop, which was his intent. We know the solution to this problem. Now to get to work, so consumers get working, not broken systems.

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For some reason this comes to me as a response to the heated debate about Jonathan Blow.

Anyhow, what I would add is, apart from what has been mentioned - nothing is impossible and Linux makes an excellent platform for gaming despite the different user configurations out there. If only it was distributed and marketed on the same level as Windows you'd see the magic.

Here comes Ubuntu - the OS that to an average geek seems as restricting, to an average consumer beneficial, because a restriction (some components less customizable than others) is often not a bad thing, but prevents harm to be done.

Gabe Newell even stated, that concerning VALVe games they achieved better performance on Linux systems rather than Windows.

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I like how it looks. Would you say it's similar to Command & Conquer? Or Warzone 2100?

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Quoting: loggfreak

Quoting: InokiLooks much like a pure copy of the old MS Intellimouse Explorer 1.1A by Microsoft.

all zowie mice do, they keep the old but gold design of older mice, and add 'flawless' sensors
(no jitter at high-dpi, low Lift of Distance, no mouse acceleration, no mouse smoothing, no angle snapping, no input lag) to it with great quality switches, it's what makes them so good, a high-quality, no-frills mouse

Not sure I understood everything correctly, but if it doesn't support acceleration it definitely wouldn't end up on my desk since I need that feature.

I don't care about the trash talk people do about acceleration, mostly because they haven't discovered its potential and how beneficial it actually can become.

Quoting: Segata Sanshiro

Quoting: InokiLooks much like a pure copy of the old MS Intellimouse Explorer 1.1A by Microsoft.

I actually still use that mouse... Only Microsoft product I own.

I used that mouse for more than 10 years and can say it's the only good MS product I know.

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Looks much like a pure copy of the old MS Intellimouse Explorer 1.1A by Microsoft.

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