How could I stop a game installing dependencies again and again on every Start and finally not launching? I have this problem with Age of Mythology: Extended e.g.
PS: Is there any info if Valve plans to fix problems caused by launchers by avoiding them and start the game directly?

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Is this game worth a try? (;

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It's a pitty to have to wait a longer time. But I'm happy to wait if they deliver a good product.

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Quoting: CorbenAh yeah, Corben means getting banned ;)

Actually games with Punkbuster will not work on Servers protected with it. I'm not aware of bans but pb will kick you if the server is protected with it.

I guess without a hack that won't be possible to solve. I'm not sure how it works but someone told me it uses lists with MD5 hashess of the files it should check and obviously the wine implementstio differs from the original files.

That's very unfottjnar since I hoped I could play BF4 with friends again but I can't...the only EA game I was interested in within the last decade.

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Hey Aspyr <3

I'd like to say I'm very grateful you guys do deliver in the end! It's a pitty cross-platform hasn't been there from the very beginning but you guys worked for it an I do honor that. You'll get a sale from me when it's confirmed from someone to work with windows players!

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Quoting: drlamb2990WX Here I come! It'll help me with training for my RHCA/other homelab stuff.

I don't NEED it...but I want it, which means I need it. I think a drug addiction would be cheaper at this point. :D

Edit: Pre-ordered!

Crazy you! (;

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No chance for them because too many people invested in other games already?!

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Even if I only played the game for a short while I think really liked it! Let's see if this updates improves the game play. (:

Heck, I think I only played very few hours within the whole summer - I guess that's a good thing! (;

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Quoting: PJgot to admit I have mixed feelings when I read news like this.
On the one hand it is awesome to hear about new ways of getting your software without hassle of hunting dependencies, configs etc and appreciate diversity in Linux.
But on the other hand - damn it, can't we agree on a single universal package format, not 3? It has this deb vs rpm stench all over it. Certainly I'd be happier if all the effort would went into making a single working, universally recognized format before adding new ones. Possibly Flatpak, even though personally I enjoy AppImages the most (due to its simplicity) - as it seems the most widely accepted across distros and does not bear the usual Canonical controversy mark...

I don't like how they handle libraries and dependencies. isn't the whole point of the linux ecosystem to avoid redundancy? if they ship every library with the snap (and they look first for the shipped library before looking into the system), they will end up with a whole lot of redundancy.

The worst point about linux (well, next to the fragmentation) is that terrible idea of avoiding redundancy by assuming you just have to the right versions of the right libraries.
It is completely impractical when you actually want to distribute software.

When you distribute software, your software was built against certain versions of certain libraries.
There is simply no way to guarantee that a user has those certain versions of those certain libraries on their computer. Nor is there a way to guarantee that there will always be your specific required version (architecture, version, etc.) available anywhere.
Nor is it realistic to expect devs to make sure that there is a PPA or whatever with exactly the versions they need.
Nor can you be sure that none of the symlinks on a user's system isn't somehow broken, pointing to a wrong version, etc.
Nor can you be sure that some update to a library won't break compatibility.
Nor can devs be expected to always make sure their software works with the most recent versions of all dependencies - devs must be able to move on to new projects, not maintain their old projects forever.
There are thousands of problems with this approach and it just barely works for open source projects IF and only if they are well maintained - for all others, it really doesn't. It is a "weakest link" approach - all goes well until the weakest link in the chain breaks - and "weakest link" approaches are generally terrible.

The ONLY way to make sure your distributed software works as intended is to distribute the exact versions of dependencies with it. Or use Docker or smth. similar (though that isn't applicable for all cases).
I rather have some megabytes "wasted", if what I get is software that is guaranteed to work on my user's machines without a hassle and without influencing anything else on the user's machines.

Oh, and because I know some tinfoil hat will come with the security argument:
If one of my dependencies has a security problem, I can update that dependency and forward that update to users. It is my responsibility as a dev to watch out for stuff like that.
But 95% of all software doesn't even do anything that could pose a security threat even if there was an exploit. And for the other 5% this happens so rarely that using a different approach doesn't come close to the benefits of distributing dependencies with your software.

hmm... I always liked the point of no redundancy about linux, and one of the strongest argument against using windows. and fragmentation on linux? only if your hdd is nearly full, really. I don't see other way to do it (besides the "linux way").
Anyway, I guess we just have total disparity of opinions on this matter lol

I'm with you, bros! Even though dependency hell is real every once in a while, especially on either Rolling Release distros where some packages are updated quickly but not everything depending on them.

Also for old, non maintained packages.

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Bought it! Playing it right now! My childhood came back to me just now! <3

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