Quoting: Dunc

... I'm all for consumer rights but I do try to think about all angles. We could end up looking at higher prices overall, no release day discounts, more micro transactions, more games updated as a constant service, games that require an online account as a service so you're not paying for an actual product and so on as developers try to keep more income when many smaller developers are already struggling.

My thoughts exactly. While I don't doubt the good intentions behind this move, publishers/stores aren't just going to throw up their hands and leave everything as it is just with re-selling allowed. They'll figure out workarounds. And those will probably end up being more harmful to consumers than non-transferable licences.

The one law that always gets passed is the law of unintended consequences.

I see many devs including Ubisoft leaving France, losing hundreds of jobs just because people want to resell a game they get for 15$ for 5$ bucks. I would be agree if this were the gaming market in the 90s where every game on cassette or disk costed 60$ but in this digital era, games are really cheap and people still want to resell it? How cheap one can be?

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Quoting: minidouBeing able to resell what you own used to be possible. What's so horrible about getting that right back ?

If you dont get it now, youll be not getting not even in a million years.
Funny thing is how to get an indie game for 5$ then reselling it in 3$, taking 5$ for a possible sale to that indie. But who fck1ng cares you are not an indie dev, right?

Quoting: ElectricPrismI can see Frances take on this being practical, and from a consumer perspective I 100% agree with users should be able to sell games or accounts (collections of games).

You said it, this is 100% from the consumer POW without taking into account how this could hit devs.

Tell me how we can create better laws for a better world when we make laws just taking one of the sides into account?

It is really disappointing to see the comments and likes here, its like Linux people really hates proprietary software so hard that they would like to see the gaming scene being hit negatively, Just because some extra bucks.

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This is simple, Valve should close doors on France. This is beyond ridiculous, why suing Valve specifically when every other virtual store including console ones are doing the same.
Now imagine the impact for developers, Funny thing Epic shills will celebrate this when they support Epic because "Epic is cool with devs", lol. They are so dumb.

Quoting: linuxcityi would not mind selling games i no longer play or transfer them to another user

Of course you dont!! All of this is about you and only you, the other people who could get involved negatively doesnt matter.

This behavior of not thinking how anything could affect anyone else but me is a cancer.
We have a healthy gaming sector(not in the employee yet) when we have plenty of competition that allows users to get games in nice sales, but with things like this, I see developers raising prices in order to get the revenue lost by the fact people can resell their games for whatever price they like. This is something really stupid, ruled by a court that has no idea of how the gaming industry is working right now!!

This will affect indies really hard.

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Blazblue Central Fiction, perfectly playable on 4.11 after installing Media foundations libraries. Only works on 4.11 so part of the work is being done by Proton while Media Foundations is only for making the game to not crash on video playback.

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The only sin Stallman committed here is to forgot that PEOPLE CANT HAVE AN OPINION THESE DAYS, you have to shut the f/*c up or follow the hypocrite standard of having the same opinion of the all SJW media.

And you cant tell anyone what you really think, we live in a de-facto censorship, not email, not social networks, anyone!!. Remember that guy that told a joke to his friend on the ear about "big dongle" in a computer conference and a feminist just heard him and make it public? He lost his job. And the SJW media was fine with it.

Human relationships are overrated. SJWs destroyed freedom of speech. It doesnt matter if opinions are unpopular or arent political correct, you should respect them and not make a fuss about it.

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Quoting: Alm888So… Steam-exclusive, then. Whew… That's a lot better. :whistle:

Sometimes before writing it could be better if you use your brain. Do you know any third party developer that was forced by Valve to release their game on Steam exclusive?
No you dont, you come with your stupid hate towards DRM and just sit there thinking your hipster platform could actually call the attention of any cool developer, OMG The Witcher 3 is there, yeah a game that came like 4 years ago XD.
The fact is coming to Steam make the chance of Everspace 2 hitting GOG someday much bigger than going Epic exclusive but you get mad at it, use your brain for once.

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Quoting: GuestThat forum is a complete mess. Gamers should not be blaming developers (especially indie ones) for taking the exclusivity money, and they certainly should not be harassing them online. We can criticise EGS for their blatantly anti competition/anti consumer shenanigans but the threads on that Hades forum just make gamers look petty and toxic.

I have just bought the Supergiant bundle on Itch because I like to support stores who do things right and developers who make good games

What I see from here is a lot of hypocrisy coming from the "open mind" people that somehow always side with devs and act like stockholders instead of consumers.

I cant even argue about why not supporting devs that went EPIC exclusive is not right for me, without being called "hater", yeah "hate" is the only thing that moves my life according to these "open minds" which for me are just as narrow as any other, they are just in the other side.

I dont hate anyone, I dont hate any developer, they dont deserve my time, neither I deserve their time. I just decided that every game done by devs that goes exclusive on EGS even if it is timely, is not for me. If someone cant stand that, they are just as narrow minded as you think I am.

And the argument around "money for developing" I just wonder how indie studios has funded their games in their last TEN YEARS before EGS existed, even now what would happen when EGS stop funding games as they claim this exclusivity thing is not forever. You all act like if EGS were not around indie games would not exist.

It is fun to see a game being sold as full game on EGS getting an Early Access release on Steam, it is weird.

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Meanwhile EGS cant even give proper cloud saves support. But lets pretend that having a small team working like 80 hours a week in stuff that has been on PC gaming since 7 years ago worth the 11% cut.

But if you still think Gabe is taking the money to buy an island in the Caribbean, maybe we can suggest Valve to fire Pierre Lois Griffais and everyone who is working on Linux stuff, to give a better cut to those "poor" devs.

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Quoting: HoriHowever I wonder when will the big elephant be addressed - namely the house's cut on each sale. That thing should definetely be more open (read: reduced), as it actually does affect the consumers. Devs aren't happy with it, at all (and for good reason) and decide to sell elsewhere, which is not ideal at all for the users.

How does affect consumers? Because Greedy devs wants a bigger cut despite this could affect some store services like local download servers for zones or local currencies? Not even bigger cuts, it seems some of devs are swimming into the bribes they receive for their exclusive deals with Tencent/Epic store.
We assume 30% Steam cut is not justified and its because Gabe Newell wants to buy an isle somewhere in the Caribbean but as someone who live outside of your first world bubble I see where the money goes, to make gaming available for all gamers on the world, no matter where they live.

If a dev wants to leave Steam be my guest. I dont put devs on a pedestal, they are the same guys who are changing the release date to get a better position on a list.

The "Good reason" why devs wants a better cut is simply money, not offering better services for customers.

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Quoting: jarhead_hAt this point I genuinely cannot understand why there would be any Linux gamers left who aren't on Steam. Don't talk to me about DRM, because Valve has done more for Linux's future this past year I think than any other company I can name. They are using resources on us cannot be justified with the current userbase and I believe that deserves reciprocity. I'm not saying you have to re-buy your GOG library over on Steam, but you should really start buying stuff there if you aren't already.

You keep saying that you want to reward developers that support Linux, well I'd say that Valve counts.

One can not understand reasons of Valve haters, dont even try it. It is so easy for Ubisoft to jump into the open source wagon (Blender) after the years of pain to make Open software to reach professional paid software level. Now Ubisoft are the cool guys, as Epic giving money to these poor souls.
Steam was here when even Epic said PC gaming was dead, was there when Ubisoft Ceo said all PC gamers are pirates. People tends to forget this on purpose, part of the cherry picking reasoning kids have these days.
PC gamers are ungrateful but when it comes to Linux gaming we should have a real different attitude towards Steam.

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