Uuuuu - Linux version coming too?
I guess I might give them that full price; they deserve it...

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Oh my...
...the elevator music, which scared me through my childhood :D

(unfortunately current demo seems to be "heavily un-optimized" on Linux :( )

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Ehvis

How long before extinguish phase starts?

Never. Not because they don't want to, but because the importance of Linux as a whole is way bigger that than the worst-of-both-worlds WSL system can ever be. It simply doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Never say never when it's Microsoft. Changed in some ways, not at all in others ;)

You could argue that trying to pull developers from Linux to stick with Windows, and just use WSL for ML/AI/CUDA is part of an extinguish strategy. It is when you think of it quite literally, as keeping people on WSL where they control it. All depends on your point of view and what we're referencing when we say extinguish.

But the landscape is different. EEE applied to things microsoft could control in some way. The battle fought against Linux was lost long ago and the foothold that Linux has in the total market is way too big for EEE to work. Sure they can do the first E. They can try to do the second E, but it is doomed to fail because it won't find significant adoption. Which means the third one is out of the question.

To me the whole WSL thing is a curiosity. They made a Linux kernel work on Windows in a VM like manner, but what is the point? To have your Linux service go down with a windows update? Making things dependent on two systems instead of one is a guaranteed way to make it less reliable. As a whole WSL actually looks the same as Stadia. Sure, there is a narrow niche that might see an advantage in it and would use it, but it is not objectively better and will therefore be ignored by the big crowds.

An interesting viewpoint. I'm curious then to find out how much adoption WSL has seen, if they made a bigger and better version of it with WSL 2 and now they're expanding it again - does that not mean the opposite of what you said? It must be getting a reasonably good adoption rate for MSFT to pour resources into it?

Just a sidenote: If this is some kind of a long-term strategy of MS's, such a thing as an immediate adoption might not be really important.

(I tend to think in a similar manner when talking about SteamMachines or Valve's Linux support: The goal of these two exercises is rather long term, and probably quite different that an immediate user adoption/market share/business revenue).

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I have a friend who "bought" Star Citizen some years ago.
He keeps sending videos how awesome it will be.
He is also still awaiting a full release.....

With my X4 - Collector's Edition I'm playing for quite a time, got the awesome expansion and I'm not looking back :D
Some parts of the game still need some polish and work, but it is a hugely awesome and entertaining simulation with countless possibilities of what a small player in a huge universe can do and achieve.

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Quoting: McMarius11I love this game!

#metoo

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Great game!
Although I believed that the skill from one run is transferred to consecutive runs.

It is not :(

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleAh yeah, Valorant, another game we likely will not ever be able to run with Proton due to it using very low-level anticheat.

Your mean like Ring-0 rootkit-level anticheat?
Well, I will not shed any tears for this one...

...unless one plays competitively, of course; that is a different scenario.

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Yay - I had a couple of CPU-only projects to fold today :)

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- Stellaris (after the release of Federations DLC) => Very nice update, really worth it...
- X4: Foundations (after the release of Split Vendetta DLC). Very nice update, lots of bugs fixed (some new introduced). Really worth it
- World of Warships => just tryint it out. Very good... for a weekend, then a bit repetitive
- Bioshock Remastered Edition => Oh my! A wonderful game. Like System Shock 2, just in 4K. Just awesome :)
- Unity3D => spent already around 10 hours of tutorials & 2 other full days fiddling with it.... Building my 1st space empire game :)

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I'm running on 19.10 as my daily work and home driver...
Oh my, I just can't wait for it :)

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