Gonna have to try this one out, I love text-based games!

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Never been into competitive gaming, but co-op gaming is something i really like and this game does it really well, glad to see it still going strong!

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Yes. Because communism doesn't work.

How do you know if they've never tried it, all "Communist" states people know of has all been dictatorships and according to Karl Marx himself, Communism and Democracy is inseparable, you need both. There are "Communist" governments still today who operate under democratic systems and those nations are all fine, Nepal and Mongolia to mention two.

Capitalism is great in that it drives progress in all fields as everyone strives to compete with each other

That's the description for a Market Economy, not Capitalism, they are two completely different things. You can have a Market Economy without Capitalism (Yugoslavia during Tito managed to do it and so did CNT-FAI during the Spanish Civil War), basically remove the whole system of stock-ownership and you're about 80% there, the remaining 20% is making sure you construct a system where workers own the companies they work for/at, if you work in a factory then you're a part-owner of said factory, such companies exists all over the world already and they work. Here in Sweden (where i live) our bigest store chain, Coop, is such a collective and we have many others. In Spain (which i mentioned before) there is a multi-sided company called 'Mondragon' which is also such a company, they all prove it's possible.

A system that's built upon eternal growth in an environment that only has limited resources doesn't sound very future proof to me.

That's the root of the problem with capitalism right there! Constant growth is not achievable nor practical if you want to keep the world from collapsing due to getting all it's resources sucked out. This is also what differentiates Capitalism from just a "Market Economy" a ME does not require constant growth, capitalism on the other hand, does.

So yeah.. never thought I'd write something political on this page but hey.. sometimes the world surprises you!

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Marx made certain hypotheses about human history and from there, human nature, which turned out to be wrong. That is why communism doesn't work. And It has never been "tried" because it runs counter to basic human evolutionary psychology.

Is the current system in the west perfect? No. But at least capitalism is somewhat self-aware that it's playing on human foibles. Communism is basically a secular religion. You have a fallen state, a state of perfection and a means to get from A to B. The problem is that it's based on a fauls idea about what people need to be happy.

As for socialism, it ironically has the same problem as what many people like to throw at capitalism: Every generation needs to chip in more resources into the system than the one before it. Elsewise, it cannot sustain itself. Or at the very least, it can't cover everyone of retirement age. Hence many of the problems socialist countries are facing now with their aging populations.

What do you base that on? Every time i hear someone claiming "Socialism does not work because human nature" I've never got a good explanation to what you mean by that. If you, like many others I've talked to based the whole argument on "People are naturally greedy" then you're taking for granted that you cant be greedy in a communist society, which is wrong, you can still be greedy in such a society, and yes you can still own property in a communist society, the only difference between a Communistic and Capitalistic society (idealogical) is that you're not allowed to earn money on other peoples labour and that Private Property has been made illegal in the Communist one, while still retaining the right to Personal Property such as You're house, you're TV, you're computer, You're car.

Now you might be saying, "Then why didn't it look like that in the Soviet Union?" And that is a valid question, It's because the Soviet Union was an authoritarian dictatorship, just like China and all the other Soviet inspired dictatorships and that's not something that went unnoticed, in the very early days of the Union almost every Socialist and Communist movement in the West criticised the Soviet Union, which again is something most outside critics completely ignore and instead chose to lump all socialists and communists into one big bag despite us all being VERY different from each other, check out critics such as Rosa Luxembourg, Emma Goldman, Peter Kropotkin, Stepan Maximovich Petrichenko, Amadeo Bordiga and Herman Gorter and many other great critics from that time

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with new animals making their introduction including the Eurasian Brown Bear, Polar Bear, Hippopotamus, plus Aurochs Bull and Aurochs Cow.

Does said Hippopotamus wear a fancy tophat and fart rainbows as it flies trough the sky burping hearts? Cuz if it doesn't I'll be very disappointed.

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Yes. Because communism doesn't work.

How do you know if they've never tried it, all "Communist" states people know of has all been dictatorships and according to Karl Marx himself, Communism and Democracy is inseparable, you need both. There are "Communist" governments still today who operate under democratic systems and those nations are all fine, Nepal and Mongolia to mention two.

Capitalism is great in that it drives progress in all fields as everyone strives to compete with each other

That's the description for a Market Economy, not Capitalism, they are two completely different things. You can have a Market Economy without Capitalism (Yugoslavia during Tito managed to do it and so did CNT-FAI during the Spanish Civil War), basically remove the whole system of stock-ownership and you're about 80% there, the remaining 20% is making sure you construct a system where workers own the companies they work for/at, if you work in a factory then you're a part-owner of said factory, such companies exists all over the world already and they work. Here in Sweden (where i live) our bigest store chain, Coop, is such a collective and we have many others. In Spain (which i mentioned before) there is a multi-sided company called 'Mondragon' which is also such a company, they all prove it's possible.

A system that's built upon eternal growth in an environment that only has limited resources doesn't sound very future proof to me.

That's the root of the problem with capitalism right there! Constant growth is not achievable nor practical if you want to keep the world from collapsing due to getting all it's resources sucked out. This is also what differentiates Capitalism from just a "Market Economy" a ME does not require constant growth, capitalism on the other hand, does.

So yeah.. never thought I'd write something political on this page but hey.. sometimes the world surprises you!

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"Came for the sex, stayed for the Gameplay/Story" hopefully it's like that, might have to give it a go, I love management/cityplaning games so this might just be right up my alley, adding fantasy and.. and.. such things.

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One of the few gaming companies that actually gives a shit, love you Valve, you'll be missed Rick May, you've left a huge pair of shoes that most likely no one else will be able to fill!

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One of my favourite games at this time, so it's great hearing they keep hammering out both DLCs AND free patches!

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Not so sure about this, man, they should stick to Debian, not only would that be better for all other Distros since it will make it a LOT easier to optimize anything from valve to all other distros in the linux world, also Debian is way more stable then anything else, if it works on Debian it will most likely work everywhere else!

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I see Liam has good taste in old memes~
.. No we DONT have any grapes!

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