Quoting: qptain Nemo

Quoting: JmsnzThe conspiracy theories are stretching it.

Apple report how many macs they sell per quarter. You don’t need to guess from net marketshare. Why didn’t Apple have it corrected to 7%? Why not 20%? Please.

Linux almost doubling in markshare in one month was never going to plausible. Especially with only one data point.

So your counterargument to Apple fudging the numbers is that Apple are reporting their sales honestly elsewhere... because they just do? (also wouldn't the relationship between sales and current OS adoption be complicated? everybody who bought a Mac in the previous quarter and likes it, will still be using it in the next, but those who didn't have since switched, neither of which you can possibly predict and so on)

Also correcting it to 20% would require either removing 20% of Windows users which would raise eyebrows or completely eradicating Linux and then still eating 17% off Windows which would raise even more eyebrows. Definitely nobody would believe any of that unless it's discovered to be actually close to the truth.

Lastly I never said I think it doubled. I'm just skeptical it crumbled back and even if it did that the people lost deflected to Mac for that matter. But as I said in the previous post, all this could very well be real (as real as such statistics go anyway). As could be interference by Apple. Powerful people with tons of money and influence interfering to protect their interests isn't exactly an outlandish alien lizardmen scenario, you can't dismiss it just by mentioning the word "conspiracy".

Promoting the idea that Apple ‘didnt like the numbers’, on a single data point, made a phone call, numbers revised.... Is absolutely a conspiracy.

I’m being dismissive of it because it’s ridiculous.

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Quoting: qptain Nemo

Quoting: doomiebabyif all linux desktop usage is within their margin of error, that's one hell of a margin for error.

Yeeaaah, that's not ideal.

And I have to say, going from significant growth to losing ~0.30% to Mac is a really odd correction. And if you look at the trends from this period from Novermber 2016 to September 2017 that we are all looking at, "Apple complained" seems like a plausible theory. Windows is on a slow but steady decline, Linux lingers at 2% with a slight decline that rights into a pretty steady-looking incline, Mac is balancing around 6% but nonetheless is noticeably declining. Except according to current data in September it's suddenly fixed. Windows continues to decline, Linux loses some of its recent gain, but Mac is back to its 6+%. This could be reality but it's undeniably a very convenient scenario for Apple. "Macs are totally still popular, all is well for Mac, nothing to worry about"

The conspiracy theories are stretching it.

Apple report how many macs they sell per quarter. You don’t need to guess from net marketshare. Why didn’t Apple have it corrected to 7%? Why not 20%? Please.

Linux almost doubling in markshare in one month was never going to plausible. Especially with only one data point.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: BerenNetmarketshare removed their September figures altogether.

Wow...

wtf? Apple complain?

And as science has proven, most people who buy macs are douche bags. :)

This is the ‘reflecting poorly’ I was talking about.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: BerenNetmarketshare removed their September figures altogether.

Wow...

wtf? Apple complain?

For those that are 'but the Coffee shop is full of them!' that's because most of the people who will go to buy an overly expensive coffee to feel like they are socializing, but instead just to sit around with their face buried into their computers are douche bags. And as science has proven, most people who buy macs are douche bags. :)

It’s comments like this that reflect poorly on a community.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Jmsnz

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Uramekus"This report contains preview data that has NOT been reviewed by Quality Assurance."

well , yeah, we have our response rn with this.

Hah, that wasn't there when I first looked at it. I'm guessing they've had to put that up, due to how different it is. I did say it was suspicious!

Edit: This is now clearly noted at the top of the article, to prevent confusion.

Hey Liam, just pointing out that the disclaimer has been there with data dating back to may. I would take all of these results since then with a giant grain of salt.

As originally mentioned in the article, I did say people should take it with a large bag of suspicion :)

As for the disclaimer, it has not been there since May.

You can look back through the previous months data. Give it a try. It shows up until you go back quite a few months.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Uramekus"This report contains preview data that has NOT been reviewed by Quality Assurance."

well , yeah, we have our response rn with this.

Hah, that wasn't there when I first looked at it. I'm guessing they've had to put that up, due to how different it is. I did say it was suspicious!

Edit: This is now clearly noted at the top of the article, to prevent confusion.

Hey Liam, just pointing out that the disclaimer has been there with data dating back to may. I would take all of these results since then with a giant grain of salt.

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Quoting: blackout24You will never find a Blizzard game on Steam. They have their own store and ecosystem.
Also Blizzard doesn't support OS X anymore despite being massive Apple fanboys from day 1. They released games for Mac, before having Apple stuff was considered cool (1999). Overwatch for example has no Mac client. I think Macs are just too much a pain in the ass with their crippled 3D graphics stack. It's either crippled OpenGL or their weird Metal API.

Blizzard absolutely support OSX. They've doubled the size of their mac team in the last year, and are porting WoW and Startcraft2 to Metal. Overwatch isn't coming... Yet. So they seem all onboard for metal.

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