Imho tux icon and steamos icon should be separated things: if it works on linux put tux icon.

If if works on steamOs, has steam controller support (or at least is reasonable to play with that), has steam cloud support (without messing with different user savegames), etc etc put the steamOs icon.

Yea, 99% of the times if it support steamOs it supports linux too so the 2 icons may look redundant. But they're not. In addition this would allow Valve to put some stricter quality control on official SteamOs games. Sure if the game runs on linux you get the tux icon. But for the SteamOs logo they could demand some additional requirements.

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Quoting: dlfi'd rather have a earlier blizzard title - Warcraft 1/2/3, Diablo 1/2, Starcraft 1/broodwar

Diablo 3 with Steam Controller support. And local co-op.

The day we see that happen the earth shall shatter, lava will start flow in the country whilst legion of deamons will pour in our cities streets. And Sean Bean will not die in a movie.

For the last seal will be broken and the End War will begin!

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The problem of VR is that is a new and still empty market: should they have missed their duel with Oculus this month mr. Facebook would have imposed his technology to the world (and his "all your likes belong to us" user agreement as well as we learnt from the other article). Then it would have been very difficult to penetrate an already saturated market. Think of Android: despite its superiority to iOS it took ages to penetrate the market. And Valve is not Google. And similarly towhat did Apple there would have easily been Facebook censorship and a trivialization of the technology. Which is a shame in a supposedly free world.

So I can understand why they had to put linux aside for a while. Also in the grand scheme of things it won't hurt that much. The point where AAA titles on linux are the norm and Vulkan is the standard on PC are quite far. Until then there won't be big fluctuations in the market. We will remain the pretty 0.8% of the market. The pretty share. :)

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I can't really like or dislike this article. I don't own my likes.

Quoting: "Mark Zuckerberg"All your like are belong to us.

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Quoting: SamsaiI believe you messed up the headline. Isn't it supposed to say "Linux Usage Dramatically Drops, Linux Gaming Practically Dead, All Hail Our Corporate Overlords"?


Sorry, forgot to add the </sarcasm> tag.

Also: the 1st of April is long gone. Bring back the gaming on win 10 logo before Ballmer catches you.

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Quoting: MalYes: Sony is a promoter of Vulkan.

Are they though? They are promoters of the Khronos Group… I searched the web and Sony’s web sites and couldn’t find any mention of Vulkan.

Right. Dunno how much changes the things in practice though.

Sony is very big. Much bigger than just PS4. Their interest int he technology doesn't necessarily translate in something console related.


The way I see it: in the long run to jump on Vulkan is the win move. In the short run though they'll lose some performance edge on the xbone: their semi native graphic api is on a lower level than Vulkan/DirectX12. Which means it's almost surely faster than the two (and in fact ps4 strongly outperforms xbone on every single title). What they really loses is compatibility of present titles with an eventual PS5.

If they really want to walk this way they need good timing for the switch.

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"You must construct additional conveyors!"

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Yes: Sony is a promoter of Vulkan.

Yes: Sony never hinted in any way that it will adopt Vulkan for the ps.

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Quoting: ricki42In addition, don't buy using mobile, apparently that always gets counted as Windows.

WTF?!?

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Quoting: Kimyrielle

Quoting: Mal

Quoting: KimyrielleNot sure why game devs would want to support two rendering paths when one of the already is supporting every single platform they could possibly want to support in the long run

Cough...

UWP...

cough cough...

Tbh, I cannot really see major developers basically submitting whatever business leverage they have to Microsoft and be forever at their mercy, even if that's exactly what MS has in mind. EA wants to keep Origin and Ubisoft wants to keep UPlay because that gives them direct no-middleman access to the market. I don't have a crystal ball, but I cannot see UWP monopolizing gaming anytime soon.

Yeah I think too that pc gaming will do a lot to remain free.

But uwp and direct 12 are already the future of xbox and you can't ignore it as a developer. The fact that they automatically make your game run on win 10 pc is just very very convenient: xbox + pc with a single tech? You can bet it will have success.
Also many publishers (square Enix, sega, etc) don't run a market so they don't care much about being forced to sell via M$. That's why we all look at specific players like riot, blizzard or ea.

Vulkan is the tech if you develop for pc (civilization, total war, etc). But for games that target consoles too directx 12 has a lot of convenience.

That being said: imagine a world where Sony go crazy and open ps to Vulkan. The arguments above would be completely defeated. Many big heads at M$ would immediately arakiri XD

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