Quoting: Doc AngeloQuestion: Are there games on GOG with a multiplayer component that either relies on a third party account or a proprietary master server? If not, that would be really cool and in line with the aspect of "digital preservation".

There is this list. I don't know how accurate it is. https://www.gog.com/mix/games_with_multiplayer_drm [External Link]

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What makes Galaxy worse than any other installer? I see no issue with the default installer program being a sort of installer-updater-client thing if it's not required for running the game itself. So if somebody does I'd like to know why. Feel free to point out obvious elements, because I have no experience with Galaxy whatsoever.

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Quoting: TurtleSharkJust wanted to say thank you mrdeathjr. I actually always look in the comments for you every wine release to see whats working now! Thank you!

Pardon the offtopic, but I immediately imagined your avatar saying something like "dear sir, i'd like to kindly request that you provide Linux support for your game".

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Oh man. You're most likely right. This is a good respectable reason but it means it's gonna be delayed considerably longer. But at least when it happens it'll be a win win win situation. Oh well.

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Quoting: LeonardKIt's damn slow, had more crashes since I installed it than any other program and annoys the hell out of me with its shitty user interface. eh.
/rant :)

Could you elaborate about the things you dislike about the user interface? I don't wish to argue about appeal of discord, I think we've made our cases, but I'm somewhat enthusiastic about UI design and I'm always curious to know what works and what doesn't for other people.

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Quoting: LeonardKCool! Meanwhile I made this: https://gitlab.com/LeonardKoenig/EH-TB_Linux [External Link]

You did a good thing!

Quoting: LeonardKAnd why does everyone use discord nowadays :-(

Because it's currently the best application for IM and group chat and voice chat. The only real competitor (I'm talking primarily feature-wise) during the rise of Discord was Matrix and Discord was significantly faster at adding features and capturing the mainstream audience. It's not the most perfect application for those purposes theoretically possible but I stand by that it's simply the best available as well as the best I've ever used.

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Quoting: Doc AngeloDidn't know about the Linux version! Very nice! I'll take a look at this.

They're really supportive there and maybe now they have time to look into my patches for their first Edna and Harvey installment to maks it run on Linux natively (they told me they had something "big" to release first) :p

They will release a remastered version of the first Edna in 2019 that will support Linux. They've announced that on their official discord.

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Quoting: WJMazepasTbh i prefer to play old games on Wine than Windows 10 because they all work much better. I even need to do more fixes to work proper on Windows 10

Any specific examples? I'd appreciate them for future talking points.

Quoting: ElectricPrismI am actually looking forward to playing some old windows games hassle-free -- Rock of Ages, Burnout Paradise and the Final Fantasy series that I already bought but haven't touched since I went full Linux and had no time to dick around setting them up.

Burnout Paradise pretty much just works. Just tested it again in my pretty messed up main prefix and it's Gold on WineHQ. Pretty sure it should work in clean prefixes out of the box.

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Quoting: GuestCould Valve be creating an SDK for Steam?
Developers will no longer need to target the OS, and instead just code games direct for the Steam API.

Now that would seriously shake up Microsoft.

That would be awesome but so so tricky to pull off. It'd have to be the mother of all game development frameworks.

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Quoting: GuestRegardless of how it was done, Valve can't just make all Windows games playable in Wine with magic, there has to be official support for whatever it is from the developers. Valve can't force developers to suddenly support a new platform, whether that's Linux+Wine, or whatever. Developers have to decide to do that, and then communicate that in an official, legal way on Steam, and that way should always be with a SteamOS/Tux/Linux icon on the game's store page. If the developers do provide that support, the game better run well and be bug-free, otherwise it's going to get bad reviews, plain and simple. If more developers release Wine bottles that are done right and are good games, that's a good thing and not something any of us have to fear. If native Linux games that don't use Wine bottles perform better, some devs will do that instead. There's still incentive to make gaming on Linux be a thing, no matter how that is done, and that's not something that will ever go away!

Yes they can and there is no magic necessary. Wine is steadily getting to the point where it will play 99% of all Windows games.

On one hand I see what you mean. I imagine it's the very reasoning Valve used to avoid officially support Wine before now. However, the benefits from properly adding "run with Wine" functionality into Steam are immense and absolutely worth the risk and effort. It would change the status of SteamOS only having 19% of games to having 99% of games. The issue of player dissatisfaction you raise is a real one, but it's by no means insurmountable. There are many ways around it. It's not even that difficult to completely avoid it, for example by carefully selecting games that are supported by the "play with Wine" feature, storing the last known version of Wine that definitely runs them well along with them and so on. You won't have to deal with customer dissatisfaction if it never happens. Valve could provide support for this feature themselves as a part of their platform. They then can carefully expand that list of supported titles and still let people who really know what they're doing use it on games that aren't officially supported after clicking on a disclaimer. If you develop some tools for automated compatibility testing, this process can become even more efficient. And so on. Also obviously, from a non-idealistic point of view, the important part isn't having 99% of games, it'd take solid support of like 20 hot AAA titles to make a ripple.

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