Quoting: g000hYes, but I'm already on the AMD side. ( AMD FX 8350 8-core 4GHz base clock )

Having to upgrade practically the entire innards of my system makes this almost equivalent to an entire PC purchase. What I'm saying is that it is a shame that this isn't a plug-in replacement to current FX series CPU, possibly costing closer to £200 and no need to buy "a whole PC" to get it.

It is annoying me that I feel that I have to upgrade to keep a smooth performance in AAA gaming. Fingers crossed that Vulkan games will work better, and there will be plenty of them in the future.

The problem is the AM3+ socket of your FX CPU is really old already, see how many Intel sockets have passed in the meantime. At some point they need to change it to enable new tech such as DDR4 or others that AM3+ isn't able to handle. If AM4 is anywhere near AM3+ in terms of longevity it'll be a good investment :)

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Quoting: AimelaJust look at G-Sync,

To be fare the new Freesync2 is closed loop just like g-sync also. I don't know if AMD will be able to sell freesync2 with the way they intend to do it (exclusive product selection among other things).

In which way is FreeSync 2 closed ? What I understand is that AMD has only made some more stringent rules to follow in order to improve the quality of the rendering (some monitors had sub par quality because the rules were too broad with the initial FreeSync implementation). However it is still royalty-free and free to use.

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Quoting: LeopardNo,thanks.I will pass.

That's cool. Your narrow definition of "real" gaming doesn't interest me anyway. I am curious as to why you're on GOL claiming gaming is dead though. GOL was here before the Steam revolution and I suspect it'll be here long after.

Regardless, going back to Windows? Not for me. I'd rather give up gaming.

I think giving up a few FPS and having to wait for some ports is way acceptable regarding how using Windows has become a pain in the ass. And as others have said there are more games available already that I will ever be able to play, I'm a real gamer and doing real gaming on my Linux rig ^_^

I nearly got my brother in law to switch to Linux yesterday when his Windows 10 threw an unexpected update at him without any prior warning and his machine was stuck for 30 minutes before he got to kill the PC altoghether (he needed to leave for work and wouldn't let it run all day). It's maturing and I think I'll get him out of the dark side within a couple of months now :D

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Thanks to a news here about the Payday 2 Humble Bundle back in January I bought it for myself and got 3 of my Windows mates to get a copy as well. Since then I've logged more than 50 hours in it and it's real fun (going infamous tonight if everything goes well ^^).

Thanks to the crossplay between Windows and Linux I can now enjoy multiplayer with them without having to boot to Windows just to launch Batllefield 4, as far as I remember I didn't boot Windows since then :)

I was skeptical about this game but I can now recommend it ^_^

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Going AMD is the best to support the efforts made towards open source drivers, hopefully Vega will be competitive enough to get a good adoption :)

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Quoting: t3gIts funny how Valve complained about the Windows Store being a walled garden and then make their own software an even bigger one by releasing more and more APIs and libraries to force you to use Steam.

That's why gaming in Linux, if you use Steam, is no less of a closed platform than gaming on Windows. Non-free store to play non-free games. Oh and both work best using non-free AMD and Nvidia graphics drivers. You can say that amdgpu is open, but it requires non-free binary firmware.

I guess everyone agrees that Valve is not a charity, they're making business and are trying to bring and keep players on their store. Whether that be evil or not is up to you.

However you have to water down a little your position, for example saying "both work best using non-free AMD and Nvidia graphics drivers" when Valve is actually paying people to work on the AMD open source driver is a little harsh....

I know Valve is not an angel company, but without them I'd still be using Windows, I personaly see this as a benefit and I'm thankfull they're doing at least what they're doing for Linux ^_^

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Quoting: natewardawgSome YouTubers, like LinusTechTips, did some ad-hoc benchmarking at the expo and it looks like performance per dollar blows away Intel! :)

I'm quite confident about it, my fear is that as in the graphics card space a lot of users only like AMD being competitive to buy their usual stuff (Intel/Nvidia) at a more affordable price. I see a lot of these whinning about the price, wishing AMD gets good stuff at a good price and not buying AMD... and then after a few years they cry again because AMD didn't get sufficient revenue to support a healthy R&D and Intel/Nvidia get in another cycle of customer fist f*****g.....

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I really really hope that if the performance is on par with Intel, and even if Intel strongly decreases their pricing, people will massively buy the AMD solution. I would love to see Intel pay for their bad practises, be it with regards to end customers with their crazy prices (hi there Nvidia as well) or shadow business practices making that you'll hardly find an AMD processor in OEM desktops and even less in laptops :><:

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Quoting: jith_feralNo probs! If you're planning to get a racing wheel specifically for DiRT Rally, I'd suggest waiting until we announce what wheels will be supported, but of course it's totally up to you.

Thanks for the advice, I wanted to upgrade so I'll just stick with the old G25 until you announce support ;)

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It's good to see progress but I'd definetely take even more progress.

Juste installed a Radeon RX480 (with latest stable MESA) and judging by the Heaven benchmark it's notably slower than my HD7970 Ghz was in Windows 7 on the same rig two years back :'(

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