Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: DrMcCoy

but the ultimate reason is pretty much the same as always — Linux and Steam Deck together hold a less than 2% user share on Steam

Sorry, but no, that's wrong. The reason is this:

due to the Linux version being on an older version of the PAYDAY 2 engine

I.e. a terrible development environment, the developers being bad at their job.

What I said still isn't wrong. If it was financially worth it, they would do it and they would have kept it up with other changes in the background. Debate the finer details of what it all would entail, and what they should have done, but the reasoning is exactly as I said and anyone saying otherwise at this point is deluded.

But if you make keeping the platforms in sync, a little horror job, you also need more money and thus more sold copies.
Aka if oyu do it right it is more or less a bonus in terms of copies sold. And if you do it right, you're probably doing a lot of other things right in development.

The ugly truth is, if you can't maintain mulitplattform software proberly, you should get another job. Microsoft comes to mind...

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Looking forward to Line, the "Line is not an emulator" from Microsoft to run Linux games on Windows...

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Quoting: DebianUserThis game just makes me remember one thing...

Sure we will release TW3 on linux, you can even preorder it !
Some months later : "Sorry, we will not release under Linux, why ? Simple, the Linux users were pretty harsh with us on TW2 Linux release, so we don't release for them anymore"

Fun fact : they still release For Playstation and Windows even if the players were harsh with them after the release of CP2077 (I think way more than for Linux TW2 release)...

Oh and the rage for TW2 must be around 2014, and they were working on TW3 for Linux on 2015, and then cancelling it in 2016...

Yeah i'm a bit embittered, but it happens when i think someone is lying to me.

I wonder where this love for Linux comes from lately. I also stopped buying from CD RED/GOG after that "mishap".

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In my opinion they have become a joke long ago. I wonder why they are worth being mentioned here...

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I think the polarization won't change much, unless GOG/CDPR shows interest in Linux and stops their escalation.

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Quoting: Guest(I'll assume you misquoted me in one area btw)

I've corrected the quoting, thank you for the friendly hint :)

Quoting: GuestBasically no choice on the Windows version - it's likely about 80% or 90% of the revenue for the game. Consoles might take in some, but Windows will be the bulk of it.

No surprise, but they are having different standards for windows and GNU/Linux community.

Quoting: GuestIn any case, a couple of points: CDPR are not exactly treating GNU/Linux users badly, they're just not supporting the platform.

What they are still to blame for is their broken promises, and that falls in the category "treating GNU/Linux users badly" (at least in my view).
Comments like this one shows that they still unfriendly to GNU/Linux.

These are the issues why they, in my view, are unfit to do business with.

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Quoting: kon14Sure, there was a big community backlash over TW2's original eON release, but I'm not aware of any death threats having been sent at the time.

There were. And the utter vileness that came out of the community caused actual mental harm to some of the developers. It was abysmally bad. Absolutely no forgiving it at all, and it should never be passed off lightly.

I understand some of the feeling towards the initial release of TW2, but the level of atrociousness directed at VP turned many others away from GNU/Linux because why bother putting up with that for an insignificant market? Grumpy is one thing, vicious attacks are another.

Quoting: kon14If there were DeathAre you perhaps mixing this up with people sending CDPR death threats over Cyberpunks delayed launch?

If there were also death threats at the cyberpunk launch (Cyberpunk 2077 devs are getting death threats ... [External Link], maybe CDPR should have pulled the windows version (of cyberpunks) as well?

There are idiots everywhere, even if you release cyberpunk as open source you will get hate, cause sombody just paid money for it. And if CDPR didn't pull cyberpunk for windows, the reason for their treatment of linux is not justified very well.

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I do believe a solution could be found, if it is really wanted. I believe creating a kind of trusted bubble should be technical possible, and it should be no problem for a program to check if the kernel (or the bubble) has be corrupted.

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I'm entering the giveaway! :)

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Hey,

love to try it out, if there is another key.

greetings

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