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Quoting: buenaventuraWow, yeah Kentucky Route Zero is worth every penny, it's a fantastic, amazing game! Buy it! I am a patron of Cardboard Computers (who make KRZ) and they are such awesome devs. Act V is on the way! (perhaps late 2018/early 2019).

KRZ moved me in a way that games just don't do, it's writing is reminiscent of my favorite author Cormac McCarthy.

Listen, after their promises that the whole game would be finished by late 2013, their continued missing of their own updated release dates, their lack of communication and highly opaque approach to updating in general, and their last promise on Steam given more than a year ago:

It will be available for Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One. We'll release it at the same time as we update the PC version with Act 5, which we're planning to do in the early part of 2018.

You'll forgive me if I'm just a little bit skeptical that we'll ever see the game completed.

Don't get me wrong, I love what I've played of KRZ to death, but I've long since come to the conclusion that we're either dealing with vapourware or a team of auteurs who keep fiddling with it until it's perfect, which will be about half past never.

tl;dr I don't trust Cardboard Computers enough to believe that we'll see Act V before mid-century.

Was gonna ask if KRZ was ever completed.
Judging by your post , guess not.
I am SOOO glad i never invested into it. Guess my kids or grand-kids will see the ending.

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What are your thoughts?


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Looks like the first stage of Spore on steroids.
Not saying that's a bad thing.

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Quoting: amataiI don't use Youtube (or any google services) I want to have a bit of control on the data I leak.

What is the content of the video? Trolling about Linux?

Try this
https://invidio.us/ [External Link]

Seems to be a cleaned-up front end for Youtube.

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Quoting: the3dfxdudeThe game developer wanted to do a full-commercial re-release of 7K2 in HD. The original 7K2 game engine had made available in open source before then, and had some work in porting, but the game assets remain commercial. With the developer decision, I do not wish to diverge the two code bases by working on our code separately, so I am not working on it. As you might understand, if there is a future project on 7K2, it would be best to keep the community united, and spending the little time I have on the area of the most impact, which would be on 7K1. Bringing 7K2 up to date should be easy once I finalize what I want with 7K since they are based on the same code. There are not any current plans for 7K2 in open source, but I hope what we get done on 7K can serve us in 7K2 in the future.

Would it be legal to create new assets but keep the naming conventions ?
Just curios if you could use some open assets but keep the unit names the same , or if that would be illegal ?

In any case , really amazing what you have done with the project and thanks for answering my question in such detail :)

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Hmm , sad there is no love for Seven Kingdoms 2.
I loved the Frythans. Though , given how simplistic they were compared to the human gameplay I can see why.

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Hmm , seems an interesting one to play over the winter period.
Wonder how approachable it is to newcomers.

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Quoting: lucifertdark

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Quoting: lucifertdarkHave they never heard of an ignore button? or a block button? other places if someone is giving you grief you can block their silly ass. This moderating of speech is only going to get worse & one day YOU, yes all of YOU reading this will be on the wrong end of it, because some Social Just-us Wheenie Participation Trophy Winner didn't like the way you said something & reported you to the moderator & they agreed with them.

What's next? banned from the forums then banned from playing the games you've paid for?

I'm going through a years community ban because of some of those types of people hating my guts for disliking denuvo and expressing that on steam forums

All I did was share a screenshot of one of them admitting they've pirated things before to me in a private steam chat, along with another screenshot of them following me to my friends profile to throw abuse at me.

The person was also literally on a Volunteer Moderators steam profile, posting in their comments claiming I was posting their personal information, when all I was posting was that user admitting to piracy, and him and his friends constantly harassing me and baiting me (along with anyone else who dares question denuvo software)

People should be allowed to criticize a game (or a software that game uses) without being harassed, but a lot of folk simply can't handle a game they like being criticized, personally some of my FAVOURITE games are the ones I will criticize the most

https://i.imgur.com/jxMBknZ.png [External Link]

Take a look at that, right? To you, does that post break any rules? It literally didn't break a single rule, yet this person banned me because of a certain person who kept spamming up these volunteer moderators profiles trying to get me in trouble. When I messaged that volunteer moderator back he basically told me to go F myself

Yet the one who reported me, the user has made remarks about people who dislike denuvo being part of the alt-right and being nazis, yet that sort of behavior is somehow allowed. That same user used the recent florida mass shooting to troll some anti-denuvo folk as well, and all the volunteer moderators did was remove the post for the user to allow him to continue trolling

https://i.imgur.com/agWkFC1.png [External Link]

"Any of you trolls have insider information on the Florida shooting" - apparently isn't breaking the rules

I'm sure it's just a coincidence though that he has posts ALL OVER various different volunteer moderators profiles, apparentely brown nosing is acceptable, saying it how it is.. isn't.

I've seen another volunteer moderator admit to changing his profile picture to anime literally just to bait people.

My friend knows someone who got perma-banned from Life is Strange forums for calling the story mediocre.

So in all honesty I don't think official Valve employees can do any worse in censoring things they don't like, voltuneer moderators already do that from my experience. Valves volunteer moderators should be scrapped altogether for people on an actual pay-role to mod the forums.

Sorry for the long post, but I doubt the steam forums will ever be a nice place to have mature discussions about PC gaming, that's why places like GOL are so much better.

BINGO! the rot is already there & it's only going to get worse. They need to get rational people in instead of those who think receiving a partition award is a good thing. Just wait till they start going through all older posts to find something to ban you for that you said 5+ years ago.

Tbh I probably have made some toxic posts myself on steam forums a few years ago, maybe even some on the Sonic Maniaforums, in-fact when that volunteer moderator banned me for that post, I asked him why since the post clearly didn't break any rules and all he kept doing was mentioning previous offenses made years ago on entirely different forums.

I initially only wanted to express that I wanted denuvo removed from my copy of Sonic Mania that I paid for, seeing as how it had already been cracked. It ended up turning into a HUGE shit-show, one that still carries on to this day over a year later. The real trolls in that forum never got banned imo.

But I've always tried to just say it how it is, and as you can see for yourself that user who had it in for me, constantly reporting me.. He used some recent shooting in america to troll people, which is pretty messed up.. yet the moderators don't do anything. I have many screenshots of that same user being VERY active on these moderators profiles, reporting other people.

I know 100% for a fact that if you want to get people banned while also breaking rules yourself, brown-nose the volunteer moderators by posting on their steam profiles. Seemed to work for those guys :-\

This is why I never post anything on Steam. You cannot have any dissent view against the game or it will become like what you'd experience right now. BUT, if you have "licking the butt" attitude, you're basicly got a permanent "free pass". I'd seen this poop getting worse every day based on my observation.

Another sad things is the developers/game companies inaction regarding on this. We don't know either they agree or disagree on this kind of moderation, but generally if you (the devs) staying quiet, you're agree or enabling this to happens. So, It's like they give the community (especially moderators) blessing to keep on going making poops.

p/s: I'm looking on that game's Steam community hub. They agreed to Denuvo? What?!
Yeah, this kind of community behaviour.... probably?

Not only are those trolls trying to advocate Denuvo like it's the best thing ever, they're also trying to discredit GOG and telling people not to buy from there

https://steamcommunity.com/app/750920/discussions/0/2590022385658826774/?ctp=4#c1742220359692656022 [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/312200/discussions/0/1741090847744729088/#c1741090847744780621 [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/584400/discussions/0/2595630410182430408/?ctp=35#c3211505894104140159 [External Link]

But yeah, I'm certaintely not going to be returning to steam forums when my community ban gets lifted, I can't really even if I wanted to seeing as how those volunteer mods could ban me for literally anything, even if I don't break any rules

Do those people get paid to support Denuvo or something ?
Like I really don't get why anyone would so adamantly defend DRM of all things.
Console fanboys I can get , when they think "mine is better than yours" , but this just defies all logic.

I can only assume they aren't old enough to remember things like Securom or the sony rootkit scandal.

But hell, it's hardly surprising to me anymore.. Some people even defended the use of paid character slots in that Metal Gear Survive game, it seems these goliath companies can't do anything wrong anymore

Ahh damn , you're right.
I forgot two things.
1.Kids exist on the internet
2.Fanboys of franchises exist and will defend them tooth and nail. Even to the point of parroting nonsensical corporate buzzwords about piracy/copy protection.

I found that when you try critizing abusive F2P mechanics, there will also always be users defending them with non-senical reasoning. "It is intentional, to slow down the pace to a fun degree". Which, if the game could be played at a slightly faster pace without straight-out becoming a whale, would even make sense. Specific case: A harry Potter game. [External Link]

I think i have seen the game in question.
I believe it was particularly bad. Similar to Dungeon Keeper by EA ( or any mobile game that offers gems or any other kind of premium currency)

It is actually pretty good, if you play it as a light-weight mobile adventure game rather than expecting PC-game level complexity from it. Judging from me playing Deponia on iOS, that just wouldn't translate well to mobile anyway. However, being a good game underneath makes the energy-system hurt even more. If it was outright bad, I wouldn't care.

The DungeonKeeper game was actually quite fun too (though I didn't play it at release, when it got a lot of backlash, so the F2P stuff may have been toned down). The part that hurt here was craving for a new full Dungeon Keeper game, and instead being given a mobile interpretation that has only the most superficial aspects in common with the originals. A big part of the dungeon-keeper experience was for me leading your troops in first-person into the final conquest by possessing your troops. All current-generation DK-alikes lack this part, which makes a new Dungeon Keeper game lacking it too basically adding insult to injury.

Had the DK mobile game been released in parallel to Dungeon Keeper 3, it would probably have been widely considered a nice mobile tie-in.

Isn't War for the Overworld basically a carbon copy clone of Dungeon Keeper.
Unless I remember incorrectly it should still have the possession mechanic.

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Quoting: Guest

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: lucifertdark

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: lucifertdarkHave they never heard of an ignore button? or a block button? other places if someone is giving you grief you can block their silly ass. This moderating of speech is only going to get worse & one day YOU, yes all of YOU reading this will be on the wrong end of it, because some Social Just-us Wheenie Participation Trophy Winner didn't like the way you said something & reported you to the moderator & they agreed with them.

What's next? banned from the forums then banned from playing the games you've paid for?

I'm going through a years community ban because of some of those types of people hating my guts for disliking denuvo and expressing that on steam forums

All I did was share a screenshot of one of them admitting they've pirated things before to me in a private steam chat, along with another screenshot of them following me to my friends profile to throw abuse at me.

The person was also literally on a Volunteer Moderators steam profile, posting in their comments claiming I was posting their personal information, when all I was posting was that user admitting to piracy, and him and his friends constantly harassing me and baiting me (along with anyone else who dares question denuvo software)

People should be allowed to criticize a game (or a software that game uses) without being harassed, but a lot of folk simply can't handle a game they like being criticized, personally some of my FAVOURITE games are the ones I will criticize the most

https://i.imgur.com/jxMBknZ.png [External Link]

Take a look at that, right? To you, does that post break any rules? It literally didn't break a single rule, yet this person banned me because of a certain person who kept spamming up these volunteer moderators profiles trying to get me in trouble. When I messaged that volunteer moderator back he basically told me to go F myself

Yet the one who reported me, the user has made remarks about people who dislike denuvo being part of the alt-right and being nazis, yet that sort of behavior is somehow allowed. That same user used the recent florida mass shooting to troll some anti-denuvo folk as well, and all the volunteer moderators did was remove the post for the user to allow him to continue trolling

https://i.imgur.com/agWkFC1.png [External Link]

"Any of you trolls have insider information on the Florida shooting" - apparently isn't breaking the rules

I'm sure it's just a coincidence though that he has posts ALL OVER various different volunteer moderators profiles, apparentely brown nosing is acceptable, saying it how it is.. isn't.

I've seen another volunteer moderator admit to changing his profile picture to anime literally just to bait people.

My friend knows someone who got perma-banned from Life is Strange forums for calling the story mediocre.

So in all honesty I don't think official Valve employees can do any worse in censoring things they don't like, voltuneer moderators already do that from my experience. Valves volunteer moderators should be scrapped altogether for people on an actual pay-role to mod the forums.

Sorry for the long post, but I doubt the steam forums will ever be a nice place to have mature discussions about PC gaming, that's why places like GOL are so much better.

BINGO! the rot is already there & it's only going to get worse. They need to get rational people in instead of those who think receiving a partition award is a good thing. Just wait till they start going through all older posts to find something to ban you for that you said 5+ years ago.

Tbh I probably have made some toxic posts myself on steam forums a few years ago, maybe even some on the Sonic Maniaforums, in-fact when that volunteer moderator banned me for that post, I asked him why since the post clearly didn't break any rules and all he kept doing was mentioning previous offenses made years ago on entirely different forums.

I initially only wanted to express that I wanted denuvo removed from my copy of Sonic Mania that I paid for, seeing as how it had already been cracked. It ended up turning into a HUGE shit-show, one that still carries on to this day over a year later. The real trolls in that forum never got banned imo.

But I've always tried to just say it how it is, and as you can see for yourself that user who had it in for me, constantly reporting me.. He used some recent shooting in america to troll people, which is pretty messed up.. yet the moderators don't do anything. I have many screenshots of that same user being VERY active on these moderators profiles, reporting other people.

I know 100% for a fact that if you want to get people banned while also breaking rules yourself, brown-nose the volunteer moderators by posting on their steam profiles. Seemed to work for those guys :-\

This is why I never post anything on Steam. You cannot have any dissent view against the game or it will become like what you'd experience right now. BUT, if you have "licking the butt" attitude, you're basicly got a permanent "free pass". I'd seen this poop getting worse every day based on my observation.

Another sad things is the developers/game companies inaction regarding on this. We don't know either they agree or disagree on this kind of moderation, but generally if you (the devs) staying quiet, you're agree or enabling this to happens. So, It's like they give the community (especially moderators) blessing to keep on going making poops.

p/s: I'm looking on that game's Steam community hub. They agreed to Denuvo? What?!
Yeah, this kind of community behaviour.... probably?

Not only are those trolls trying to advocate Denuvo like it's the best thing ever, they're also trying to discredit GOG and telling people not to buy from there

https://steamcommunity.com/app/750920/discussions/0/2590022385658826774/?ctp=4#c1742220359692656022 [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/312200/discussions/0/1741090847744729088/#c1741090847744780621 [External Link]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/584400/discussions/0/2595630410182430408/?ctp=35#c3211505894104140159 [External Link]

But yeah, I'm certaintely not going to be returning to steam forums when my community ban gets lifted, I can't really even if I wanted to seeing as how those volunteer mods could ban me for literally anything, even if I don't break any rules

Do those people get paid to support Denuvo or something ?
Like I really don't get why anyone would so adamantly defend DRM of all things.
Console fanboys I can get , when they think "mine is better than yours" , but this just defies all logic.

I can only assume they aren't old enough to remember things like Securom or the sony rootkit scandal.

But hell, it's hardly surprising to me anymore.. Some people even defended the use of paid character slots in that Metal Gear Survive game, it seems these goliath companies can't do anything wrong anymore

Ahh damn , you're right.
I forgot two things.
1.Kids exist on the internet
2.Fanboys of franchises exist and will defend them tooth and nail. Even to the point of parroting nonsensical corporate buzzwords about piracy/copy protection.

I found that when you try critizing abusive F2P mechanics, there will also always be users defending them with non-senical reasoning. "It is intentional, to slow down the pace to a fun degree". Which, if the game could be played at a slightly faster pace without straight-out becoming a whale, would even make sense. Specific case: A harry Potter game. [External Link]

I think i have seen the game in question.
I believe it was particularly bad. Similar to Dungeon Keeper by EA ( or any mobile game that offers gems or any other kind of premium currency)

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: razing32Hmm , is it just me or is the art eerily reminiscent of Machinarium ?

Not really. Just look at screenshots and you'll notice a clear difference in style.

Hmmm. Maybe the robot theme threw me off.

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