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Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
29 Jan 2017 at 1:52 pm UTC
Bethesda not a chance in hell they are extremely anti Linux, mainly due to acquisition of ID When john mcormack was head of Id studios for Zenimax he said no we tried to make linux a gaming platform in the early 00's we wont be trying that again. He is of course referring to the release of Quake Arena 3 and a few other titles released at that time. Although not at Id anymore his dislike of Linux is clearly en grained on whoever replaced him. Bethesda would argue they would not see a good enough return on investment ie hiring of Linux specifc coders/support staff man hours etc to make it worth their while. They could of course bring in Feral/ASpyr to do it but they wont.
29 Jan 2017 at 1:52 pm UTC
Quoting: g000hFrom reading all the various comments, I'm tending to believe that Hitman (2016) is the most likely game port. The next comments are talking about big, popular games, rather than my expectations for the Feral port...I dont think we are ever going to see Witcher 3 i know it was promised but take a look at the twitter feed on they pretty much killed that project. They did not want to use VP again due to negative press i remember a while back they were promising either a native version or an in house port. Both of those options are very very expensive it is much cheaper and easier to licence the game to a company like Feral or Asypr to do the port as they have to support the game on release.
If one of the companies who has released big, popular titles, maybe titles getting on a bit, but still incredibly popular, to Linux then there would be a decent amount of profit to be made.
For me, two of the biggest absent titles are: "Witcher 3" (CDPR) and "Elder Scrolls Skyrim" (Bethesda). It's my opinion that if either of those titles were released to Linux, millions of pounds could be made from the relatively small market share of Linux gamers.
One of the other big big titles, namely "Civilization 6" is already in the works being ported and expected any day now. (The same was true of "Civilization 5" - It is/was massively popular with Windows gamers, it had a Linux port, and a big wad of money was generated from happy Linux users.
Bethesda not a chance in hell they are extremely anti Linux, mainly due to acquisition of ID When john mcormack was head of Id studios for Zenimax he said no we tried to make linux a gaming platform in the early 00's we wont be trying that again. He is of course referring to the release of Quake Arena 3 and a few other titles released at that time. Although not at Id anymore his dislike of Linux is clearly en grained on whoever replaced him. Bethesda would argue they would not see a good enough return on investment ie hiring of Linux specifc coders/support staff man hours etc to make it worth their while. They could of course bring in Feral/ASpyr to do it but they wont.
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
29 Jan 2017 at 1:41 pm UTC
29 Jan 2017 at 1:41 pm UTC
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This so much WB also promised Arkham Knight it never happened but Mad Max did and its a pretty good game not ground breaking but its fun. Weird side notes uses same engine as Batman very few performance problems Batman had so many problems WB didnt know how to fix them so how Feral were expected to is beyond me. I think Feral are probably by now the go too Linux porter Aspyr do some good work too though.
Quoting: GuestThis might change your mind.Well, people keep asking for Skyrim and Feral keeps saying "they would love to"; but that does not necessarily mean that Bethesda would let them... But I admit, Warner Bros. did contract Feral to make macOS ports for licensed Lego games; so it is a valid posibility. But, do you remember Lego Minifigures Online which was also available on Linux? It is dead now; the game was shut down on every platform a year after its release on Linux.
This so much WB also promised Arkham Knight it never happened but Mad Max did and its a pretty good game not ground breaking but its fun. Weird side notes uses same engine as Batman very few performance problems Batman had so many problems WB didnt know how to fix them so how Feral were expected to is beyond me. I think Feral are probably by now the go too Linux porter Aspyr do some good work too though.
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
29 Jan 2017 at 1:56 am UTC
29 Jan 2017 at 1:56 am UTC
Quoting: PixelPiNo the way porting works is Square pay Feral a fee to port the game sometimes it can tie the amount to the profits from the Linux version. Bottom Line Feral are not doing shit unless they are being paid for it rightly so. So if Square wants a Mac port they will have to pay Feral to do it it. Because Square will never ever have a linux team to make native Linux ports. Well unless Vulkan really really takes off which would make the game code identical even down to the api you just need to mod the launcher.Quoting: Whitewolfe80Sorry, don't understand. Do you mean that Square makes the Mac port in house and not over Feral?Quoting: PixelPiBut suppose it is Hitman 2016, why is there no Mac port?Maybe Square has not authorised that they have to pay because there is no way they are going to start linux ports in house. Mind you having square bring hitman over if it is that one does potentially mean they may be open to bringing just cause over
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
28 Jan 2017 at 4:01 pm UTC
28 Jan 2017 at 4:01 pm UTC
Quoting: PixelPiBut suppose it is Hitman 2016, why is there no Mac port?Maybe Square has not authorised that they have to pay because there is no way they are going to start linux ports in house. Mind you having square bring hitman over if it is that one does potentially mean they may be open to bringing just cause over
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
28 Jan 2017 at 3:59 pm UTC
28 Jan 2017 at 3:59 pm UTC
Quoting: CyrilFair point gog i like because they stand behind the product if it does not work you get free support.Quoting: Whitewolfe80That's the thing, i don't use Steam, which is for me a DRM itself yes.Quoting: CyrilDo you use steam to play said games because if you do you are already using a DRM system.Quoting: GuestI'm not alone. I was wondering why Feral (and others) don't release a DRM-Free Build, i would like to buy many games from them.Quoting: wolfyrionwell if you check the depots of HITMANYeah it's Hitman releasing on the 31st of Jan sounds like. Just keep in mind the always-online DRM that this game has or will probably have. If they don't remove it now or eventually I definitely won't be supporting this one sadly.
https://steamdb.info/app/236870/depots/ [External Link]
MAC and Linux Depots are FULL of DATA :P
(Maybe i missed it)
It's a DRM because you need to install their client on your PC to download/install any game.
I Buy my games on GOG, Humble Bundle or directly with devs on their website for example.
With these, you can download your game on their website directly. I would say, Humble Bundle is more "free" than GOG, because you don't even need to have an account to buy/downloads games, an email address only is required.
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
28 Jan 2017 at 2:22 pm UTC Likes: 2
28 Jan 2017 at 2:22 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: rustybroomhandleIt maybe optional but my point still stands on some level Steam is DRM (optional or not) if you want full DRM free software its GOG. I said years ago I was not happy that everything was going digital as i prefer to have the case and manual (not that there is much point anymore)Quoting: Whitewolfe80No i mean the steam.api file that the game will not start with unless its there that would be copy protection well unless you happen to be using a "special" version possibly by codexTotally optional for a developer to use. For example:
The game "Kelvin and the Infamous Machine" game directory contains only two files:
- infamous_machine.jar
- InfamousMachine.sh
You can copy the directory anywhere, and launch the .sh without Steam even being installed.
Most AAA games will likely use the DRM though.
It's even possible to build your game such that it'll use it (for Steam features) if present, or not use it if libsteam_api.so is not present.
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
28 Jan 2017 at 1:31 pm UTC
28 Jan 2017 at 1:31 pm UTC
Quoting: rustybroomhandleNo i mean the steam.api file that the game will not start with unless its there that would be copy protection well unless you happen to be using a "special" version possibly by codexQuoting: Whitewolfe80Do you use steam to play said games because if you do you are already using a DRM system.Steam does have DRM that developers can use, but it's not a DRM system by default. My own game, as an example, after buying and downloading it via Steam, you can make a tarball of the game dir and send it to your grandmother and it will work fine.
If you consider the "buying and downloading" part of the process to be DRM, well then GoG is also DRM to you.
Feral Interactive are teasing a new Linux port again
28 Jan 2017 at 12:52 pm UTC
28 Jan 2017 at 12:52 pm UTC
Quoting: CyrilDo you use steam to play said games because if you do you are already using a DRM system.Quoting: GuestI'm not alone. I was wondering why Feral (and others) don't release a DRM-Free Build, i would like to buy many games from them.Quoting: wolfyrionwell if you check the depots of HITMANYeah it's Hitman releasing on the 31st of Jan sounds like. Just keep in mind the always-online DRM that this game has or will probably have. If they don't remove it now or eventually I definitely won't be supporting this one sadly.
https://steamdb.info/app/236870/depots/ [External Link]
MAC and Linux Depots are FULL of DATA :P
(Maybe i missed it)
It doesn't look like Homefront: The Revolution is going to come to Linux any time soon
28 Jan 2017 at 12:36 pm UTC
28 Jan 2017 at 12:36 pm UTC
Quoting: elbuglioneAs far as i know there is no real chance of that patch coming mainly due to cost and the publisher unwillingness to spend any to fix the linux port.Quoting: mindplagueLinux-Windows clients has never a problem... the issue is (or was) exclusive from clients Linux-Linux coop:Quoting: elbuglioneDont know about Linux-Linux. I am playing with friends on the Windows platform and it works fine.Quoting: mindplagueIts okay. There will be others. Playing Dying Light with friends right now. Not the greatest port, but fun co-op game.is fixed Multi-player on Linux+Linux client?
can anyone confirm if this issue persist at this time?
It doesn't look like Homefront: The Revolution is going to come to Linux any time soon
26 Jan 2017 at 5:03 pm UTC Likes: 1
26 Jan 2017 at 5:03 pm UTC Likes: 1
Got to say i was stupid enough to buy this game day one before i switched to full time linux os. Even with patches it is not a good game in anyway shape or form the story moves at glacial pace, the enemies keep coming even when you "clear and secure" and area. I was a huge fan of the original Homefront as i loved the cheesy campaign it was just way to short. Honestly the Dev potentially dropping the Linux support does not surprise me I doubt it is selling well on Windows let alone justifying the price of a full port to Linux/Mac.
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