Man, this is like the The Witcher 2 argument all over again. My personal view is that whatever is under the hood is largely irrelevant, provided it performs reasonably. That's a vague term, and dependent on your hardware, sure, but "native" for me is nothing to do with wine, dxvk, togl, indirectx or whatever is doing the translation. It's whether the developer is willing to put a Linux logo on the store front.

As for Wine Is Not an Emulator? It amazes me people still care about this recursive "joke" and the distinction it implies. It runs Windows software in Linux, with a performance hit. Who cares if it's actually a re-implementation of the underlying windows system calls? As Alm888 notes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck... we may as well call it a duck. No-one who isn't a pretty hard-core Linux nerd will care about whatever that distinction means in real terms.

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Quoting: DribbleondoRead the system requirements for Linux for a good laugh.

That's brilliant! For those reluctant to go Steam clicking:

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Two years or longer - if a game is good, and suddenly gets Linux support, I'm likely to buy it. But it does annoy me that a publisher might then extrapolate lower Linux sales to "there's no market here". I mean, they're not idiots, I guess. They must know that there's no point in doing that. Surely?? :grin:

But there's been so few truly AAA titles released with same-day Linux support, it must be hard to gauge the impact of Linux sales in any other way.

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A few picks from me:

Native

• Hellpoint [External Link] is 30% off, which I'm quite tempted by.


• Eagle Island [External Link] is 40% and I've had it on my wishlist for months. Now might be the time...


• Jupiter Hell [External Link] has it's usual 20% discount. Liam raves about this and I enjoyed its free weekend, but I'm waiting for it to exit EA first as I really want to spend some time with it.


• It's getting mixed reviews, but I really like the look of A Long Way Down [External Link]. It's giving off CardHunter meets Slay the Spire vibes. Only 25% off, but for a tenner, I think it might be worth the risk.


• Beautiful Desolation [External Link] is now just a tenner with the 30% discount.


• Pine [External Link] looks promising. And it's only just over £7.50 with the 60% discount.


• Finally, not a great discount, but I've been wondering if I should pick up The Long Gate [External Link]. It just looks really intriguing. Only 15% discount though.

Proton

• Prey [External Link] is platinum, and they've recently removed Denuvo, which was preventing me from buying it until now. At 80% off, only £4, I'm picking this up, finally.


• Quantum Break [External Link] is only £7.50 with its 75% discount, but as it's only silver-rated, I'm probably going to give it a miss.

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What on earth causes that situation?? Why would they only release Win only on GOG when they support all three platforms on Steam?

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Quoting: jensThe dotnet4-something is fortunately no longer needed, the alternative wine-mono installer mentioned in the proton GitHub issue for ED(I don’t have the link at hand now) works much better.

I heard that, but haven't tried it yet. Apparently it doesn't let you login yet, but if you link your E:D account to Steam, you can use that button and it works. The most annoying part of the whole rigmarole is that you only need dotnet47 (or the new mono approach)... for the launcher! The game doesn't need it at all. So much pain, just so they can show a couple of adverts before the game launches. Infuriating.

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If you're on Discord, you can chat to Michael Cerquoni
about his experiences too - he's using a 5700XT, albeit in 2D. You can see his E:D video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1dGXlrSsg4&t=812s [External Link]

My experience of E:D in VR is absolutely top-notch though. A perfect experience (outside of the cross-platform freezes I mentioned earlier). Smooth head tracking, high frame rates, no crashes.

I would say though - an absolute pain to set up. The donet47 install takes ages - nearly 45 minutes on my nearly top-of-the-range rig. But at least it's one command (assuming you have ProtonTricks installed) and then it "just works".

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It's the Valve Index, slaapliedje. I bought the pack - HMD, lighthouses, knuckles.

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Big XCom feels from the gameplay sections, but the art style is actually reminding me more of Shadowrun. If they can pull off that combination this is going to be epic! Very excited for this one.

2021 is just over 5 weeks away, right? (sorry...)

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Quoting: childermass

Quoting: slaapliedjeIf you're planning on Elite in VR, wait and get either a 3080 or a 6800 XT. I have a 2080, and it's playable in Windows, but gets ~100 fps less in Linux/Proton. And while it still runs ~190fps outside in space, inside stations you'll yack as the framerate drops a whole lot! I'm hoping if I get either a 3080 or 6800xt (haven't decided yet) I can finally play Elite: Dangerous in Linux.

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll think about it, although those cards might be beyond my budget and I was also hoping to get this set up before Christmas, so availability might be a problem. Besides, I got the impression from scaine and at least one other person in the comments on this article that the 5700XT performance for Elite in VR was pretty good?

Yep, I play E:D in VR with my card (it's a "AMD Radeon Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 XT 8Gb", btw). I played about 80 hours 2D on my GTX1080, which was a decent experience, and then played a further 100 hours or so in VR with my 5700XT. The VR experience is next to flawless. I had to enabled "hardware cursors" in the settings or my mouse didn't work. Very occasionally, I'll get a one or two second lag when exiting Supercruise when approaching a station. No idea what causes it, but it's rare enough that I don't care - maybe 1 in every 20 stations will get this weird pause. It's not a graphical pause either, the whole game locks up, then springs back into life. It happened in 2D on my 1080 too, so I think it's maybe just a weird Proton issue. Hell, it might even happen in Windows.

But that's the only glitch I've encountered. In VR, the game is simply breath-taking on the 5700XT.

EDIT to note that apparently the supercruise lag is really common [External Link], and across all formats... even consoles! I play in Solo and it even affects me there, so it sounds like it might be a market update from their server hanging? It doesn't sound like it's fixed, that's for sure!

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