Quoting: x_wing

Quoting: scaine

Window buttons should be on the right side of the window decoration

wasn't the default location of the buttons in Unity. You hate what you love!

One of my few claims to fame was arguing directly with Mark Shuttleworth on launchpad on the placement of window decorations. He had this weird notion that he was going to put a ton of client-side decoration on the right hand side of the window, so he wanted the buttons moved over. I was pretty vocal in my objections, but of course, "dictator for life" won out, and I fell in love with ubuntu-tweak and latterly gnome-tweak to restore the natural order. Those magical client-side decorations never did see the light of day and in the end, the whole of Unity was scrapped too.

I preferred Ubuntu when they were ruffling feathers though, making waves. The incredible hypocrisy of accusing Canonical of NIH (not invented here) syndrome really rubbed me the wrong way. I was like, bitch please, we have 1203 music players, 143 desktop environments, 29 sound architectures, 19 packaging systems and partridge in a pear tree. People complaining about Mir or Unity could, quite simply, do one, in my opinion. Humbly submitted. :grin:

And for the record, here's another contentious opinion... Wayland sucks. It's been promising to deliver... something, I don't know what, for decades. Feels like decades anyway. And Nvidia still isn't supporting it??

Anyway. Big apology to Liam - we're a wee bit off topic from Metro Exodus at this point!!

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Quoting: omer666

Quoting: scaine

Atari ST was better than Amiga

Agreed with everything you said, except this. And I had both of them!

Me too! I love them both equally, but I got my ST first, so it's just edging out the Amiga for me!

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I've written/raved about MidBoss before. For less than $5 you shouldn't even be thinking about not buying that. I also recently got into Rise to Ruins. Surprisingly compelling after a couple of false starts. It has a learning curve, but there's a nice Settlers 2 feel to it once you get going. It might be the game that eventually gets me into RimWorld!

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Is that contentious though?? :happy:

I support Godot, Wine AND a tiny handful of indie developers for that very reason! I also support Icculus and it annoys me no end that Ethan Lee only allows GitHub payments, or I'd be throwing him $5 a month too. My Patreon bill is nearly as high as my TV bill these days!! :grin:

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I should have known better to raise the emulator thing on GOL... :grin:

So, just so we're clear:

• Spectrum was better than C64


• Atari ST was better than Amiga


• Sega Megadrive was better than the Nintendo SNES


• GIMP is a stupid name that detracts from its professional image


• Ubuntu Unity was among the best DE's in existence


• Window buttons should be on the right side of the window decoration


• vi is cursed - just use nano


• AMD is superior to Nvidia (on Linux)


• PC does not mean Windows


• Wine is an emulator for the vast, vast majority of people

Glad I got all that off my chest. And it's Friday! Roll on the weekend. Have a good one, everyone!

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: scaineMan, this is like the The Witcher 2 argument all over again. My personal view is that whatever is under the hood is largely irrelevant, provided it performs reasonably. That's a vague term, and dependent on your hardware, sure, but "native" for me is nothing to do with wine, dxvk, togl, indirectx or whatever is doing the translation. It's whether the developer is willing to put a Linux logo on the store front.

As for Wine Is Not an Emulator? It amazes me people still care about this recursive "joke" and the distinction it implies. It runs Windows software in Linux, with a performance hit. Who cares if it's actually a re-implementation of the underlying windows system calls? As Alm888 notes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck... we may as well call it a duck. No-one who isn't a pretty hard-core Linux nerd will care about whatever that distinction means in real terms.

You also probably think FPGA implementations are emulators? :p

My favorite recursive acronym was MiNT, which initially stood for MiNT is Not TOS. Atari couldn't come up with their own mutitasking thing so snagged that and called it MiNT is Now TOS.

There is NO inherent performance hit with Wine. It is simply a matter of whether or not the APIs are are implemented correctly and they translate well to a performant equivalent in Linux. This is why somethings are faster and other things are slower. This is also why it is strictly NOT emulation. So you are calling a moose a duck just because it can quack.

Yep. And, like, five people care about that distinction. Or fifteen. Hell, let's make it a couple of hundred. Ar we happy now? It's irrelevant!

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Man, this is like the The Witcher 2 argument all over again. My personal view is that whatever is under the hood is largely irrelevant, provided it performs reasonably. That's a vague term, and dependent on your hardware, sure, but "native" for me is nothing to do with wine, dxvk, togl, indirectx or whatever is doing the translation. It's whether the developer is willing to put a Linux logo on the store front.

As for Wine Is Not an Emulator? It amazes me people still care about this recursive "joke" and the distinction it implies. It runs Windows software in Linux, with a performance hit. Who cares if it's actually a re-implementation of the underlying windows system calls? As Alm888 notes, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck... we may as well call it a duck. No-one who isn't a pretty hard-core Linux nerd will care about whatever that distinction means in real terms.

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Quoting: DribbleondoRead the system requirements for Linux for a good laugh.

That's brilliant! For those reluctant to go Steam clicking:

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Two years or longer - if a game is good, and suddenly gets Linux support, I'm likely to buy it. But it does annoy me that a publisher might then extrapolate lower Linux sales to "there's no market here". I mean, they're not idiots, I guess. They must know that there's no point in doing that. Surely?? :grin:

But there's been so few truly AAA titles released with same-day Linux support, it must be hard to gauge the impact of Linux sales in any other way.

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A few picks from me:

Native

• Hellpoint [External Link] is 30% off, which I'm quite tempted by.


• Eagle Island [External Link] is 40% and I've had it on my wishlist for months. Now might be the time...


• Jupiter Hell [External Link] has it's usual 20% discount. Liam raves about this and I enjoyed its free weekend, but I'm waiting for it to exit EA first as I really want to spend some time with it.


• It's getting mixed reviews, but I really like the look of A Long Way Down [External Link]. It's giving off CardHunter meets Slay the Spire vibes. Only 25% off, but for a tenner, I think it might be worth the risk.


• Beautiful Desolation [External Link] is now just a tenner with the 30% discount.


• Pine [External Link] looks promising. And it's only just over £7.50 with the 60% discount.


• Finally, not a great discount, but I've been wondering if I should pick up The Long Gate [External Link]. It just looks really intriguing. Only 15% discount though.

Proton

• Prey [External Link] is platinum, and they've recently removed Denuvo, which was preventing me from buying it until now. At 80% off, only £4, I'm picking this up, finally.


• Quantum Break [External Link] is only £7.50 with its 75% discount, but as it's only silver-rated, I'm probably going to give it a miss.

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