I've doing some extreme drinking on the 7D2D stream. That probably counts. :)

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Quoting: psyminIf Kimyrielle or scaine were to have written the CoC, based on their comments here, I assume it would contain more lopsided and biased language.

You assume incorrectly. I've already said that this is the kind of CoC I support. And no, I don't have anything to do with Godot, beyond supporting it financially.

I am an admin on GamingOnLinix and its associated Discord though. Never had to use any of those powers of moderation though, despite many, often heated, arguments both here on the site and on discord.

I think this is the first the I've ever been called an extremist though! That's new! :S:

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Quoting: Guest@Scaine and Kimryelle, you have both taken some effort to explain us you would exclude people for what they are regardless of what they do.

Yep. I fully support them being able to express these opinions about how they'd like the systems to work.

It also helps me know that I should avoid contributing to projects where they have positions of power.

So you'll avoid Godot? Because if I had a position of power in any project, I'd support using their CoC.

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Quoting: Guest@Scaine and Kimryelle, you have both taken some effort to explain us you would exclude people for what they are regardless of what they do. Or do not in that specific case. :wink:

(Not that i think you are not free to do so) :D

Well sure! The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. If I know someone is being a douche, acting in ways I despise, but I continue to work with that person, I've set the standard for that community.

That's all a CoC really is. A reflection of the type of person you want in your community.

And sure, cancel culture can make some of this stuff quite murky, but a CoC isn't going to change that happening.

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Never understood the whole issue with public/private to be honest. If I start a project, take regular contributions from three people, then discovered one of them was an unapologetic racist on an unrelated forum... you think I'm gonna want to work with that asshole?

Nah. And if I do, I'll likely lose (or at least risk losing) my other two contributors.

Ditch them. And note that I don't make that decision based on a CoC. I might have one, but my decision is based on my feelings as an inclusive, supportive, tolerant person. I just don't tolerate racists, say. The CoC only serves two purposes. First, it sets out my stall. It says, this is who I am and what I believe. And second, it helps reinforce the decisions I've already made as a not-scumbag-human.

Juan's already said all this, as TheSHEEEP linked to earlier though.

Now go support this insanely awesome project!

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Wow, still arguing semantics, everyone? As long as you're now all happy, positve Patreons of this awesome project, carry on. If not, move on. :D

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Looks absolutely superb. I'll be waiting for this one.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPThe lead developer himself clarified some things [External Link] - which all sound fine to me.
I asked if they should maybe add a tl;dr of that to the statement itself, which he said "might be a good idea".

Juan is awesome and is the reason I Patreon Godot as well as GOL. As Mirv points out, it's a shame that all the focus on this thread is on the CoC when Godot 4.0 is just around the corner and IS GOING TO BE AWESOME! And I don't even use it. I just see guys like this [External Link] developing, in Linux, on Godot and I know it's special and deserves support.

So, my advice - go support it [External Link]. Incredible project, allowing other, incredible projects to exist. $5 a month to help make that happen? Hell yes.

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I've started using the Glorious Eggroll stuff quite a bit. It's a really nice alternative to the official branches - it seems to do a better job with titles that need the mono runtime. It's a great project. And downloading a tar, unpacking it into a directory is the kind of "install" I can get behind. Really simple, really effective.

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Funnily enough, I've just sank a beautiful Cabernet Sauvingon tonight, despite my drunken antics on yesterday's 7D2D stream. Good timing! Also, I should probably drink less. Probably.

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