Quoting: tmtvlYeah, the CoC literally says maintainers can, quote, 'ban temporarily or permanently any contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening, offensive, or harmful.' As well as: 'Representation of a project may be further defined and clarified by project maintainers.'

I can see how some people might disagree with a text that basically gives maintainers carte blanche to ban whomever they want at any time.

As maintainers, they had that power all along. Kolivas maintains his own patches as a fork literally because Torvalds told him to take his patches and fuck off. Kolivas called his patches the "brain fuck kernel" for years as a stab at Torvalds & co.

This isn't the Steam Forums. It's the Linux Kernel and its mailing list. It's long overdue some "be excellent to each other".

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Quoting: gabberIt's vague and not focused.

Threatening, Offensive and Harmful behaviour? That's not vague. "Inappropriate" isn't as useful a word, but honestly, if you get to the point where there's any prospect of this line being used against you, it's likely that you've already thrown a few grenades and burned a few bridges on your way there.

I can see some issues where someone takes honest criticism the wrong way. Especially in text, it's hard to convey conviction without appearing aggressive. But not impossible.

Is anyone really, literally, against making the Linux kernel a more acceptable, inclusive space?!? If so, by all means quibble about specific language in it, but the moment you proclaim it to be a "political movement" to "grab power", you've lost me.

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Basically, some people are conflating "Linux has a CoC" to "Social Justice Warriors have forced Linux to have a Code of Conduct they don't agree with", and so now it's a "political movement".

I can't understand how "be nice to each other" can be construed in any way other than positive. But critics are ignoring the fact that most major projects have a CoC and Linux was an exception, and are flag waving that this means that dissent of any kind can result in you being banned from the kernel.

As if that didn't already happen. Ask Con Kolivas, for example, who now maintains a kernel fork on his own website after falling out with Torvalds spectacularly a decade or so ago. He described contributing to Linux as about as scary as it gets (source [External Link].

A CoC might have helped back then and if it had, perhaps we'd have a better kernel for desktops today. (You still can - his website gives you the patch you need to compile a more responsive kernel, if you're interested).

Makes you wonder how many truly awful, terrible people contribute to the kernel to warrant this kind of reaction.

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Nah, he's still going: https://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135510393205588067/?ctp=43#c1734336452575794781 [External Link] and still trying to get his bitter jibes in about Linux. I never really thought he was a paid shill, despite all the evidence. I think he's just either a young guy who enjoys trolling, or an older guy with an anti-Microsoft agenda. Probably the latter, since he always plays the "but I'm so reasonable" card whenever he's called out for trolling.

Whatever his motivation, he has waaaaaay too much time on his hands.

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Do they frown on signing up for a month's games, then immediately cancelling out again? Is there any penalty for doing so?

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Quoting: finaldestI am going with Grand Theft Auto

I managed to link this to the following album and the track "I ran" has been referenced to GTA Vice city.

Aurora Borealis - The Greatest Hits
A Flock of Seagulls - I Ran

A game made by Rockstar North? That's ticking a few boxes! :)

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Seagulls and Aurora. Isn't there an Aurora in Subnautica? And seagulls would make sense...?

It has issues under Steamplay too. Fingers crossed for this.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI think only game owners should be allowed to post on each game forum...
General discussion forums, that is another thing...

That feature does exist but the devs have to turn it on.

Tripwire turned it on for Killing Floor 2. It's pretty infuriating. You can't ask for status reports (e.g. on Linux builds) and you can't ask specific questions about a game before you buy. I mean, fair enough, their forum their rules, but I tend swerve away from any dev/game who actually does it.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: fabertaweHah! Just received an alert from Steam telling me it's 40% off and I thought it really is time I picked this up. Good timing ^_^

Yep, I'll be buying this today. Looks awesome. Could be another LiveStream, Liam? The last one you can was excellent, except that you 'finished' it, which was a damp squib given that it didn't have an ending!

I think we can schedule it in ;)

Maybe you would like to join us.

I'd better get playing then (just bought it)! :D

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Quoting: DrMcCoyNo, Portal 2 is not censored in Germany. At all.

The first Portal game was lightly censored for a while, with blood generated when turrets hit you painted gray instead of red, but even that has been removed years ago.

Stop telling lies.

I think he meant Postal 2... :)

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