Quoting: Quote from adolson

Quoting: Quote from scainecertainly the best to grace PS3

I disagree with that statement

Go on then, I'll bite. What do you think was the best indie game to grace the PS3? Because I played an absolute ton of games on the PS3 besides the triple-A's and this was the stand out for me. In fact, all the PixelJunk games were.

The only non-Triple-A titles that could be said to surpass them, in my opinion, would That Game Company's titles - Flow, Flower and Journey. But I'd have to be convinced that you can call "That Game Company" an indie.

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Pretty much one of the finest indie games ever, and certainly the best to grace PS3, now available on Linux. Absolutely awesome. I played the opening bout of levels last night and it's flawless with my Xbox wired controller. Just brilliant.

And at only £5.24, a complete steal. Hours of entertainment.

Local co-op only (like the original PS3 version), but it's primarily a single-player game anyway. Fun with two, but not essential.

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Quoting: Quote from Xodetaetl

Quoting: QuoteLots of games on Steam don't use DRM.

I wish they advertised it on the games' profile.

A common, and justified complaint. They should man-up in that regard. Name and shame and all that...

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Lots of games on Steam don't use DRM. You can use Steam to buy them cheap, download them, then never use Steam again.
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games [External Link]

But then cheapness is only one benefit of Steam. For me, the bigger value is in the community, knowing what my friends are playing, competing for achievements, jumping into their games, using the Steam voicechat to emulate LAN parties, starting up threads about the games and their linux support, and modding games simply by "subscribing" to workshop content.

Steam has its drawbacks, but the platform is pretty awesome. Like most social platforms, you get out more if you put in more.

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Quoting: Quote from Xpanderonly thing that seems to be missing is the Tesselation

http://www.overclock.net/t/1439965/metro-last-light-windows-vs-linux-graphics-comparison [External Link]

And yet the graphics are absolutely stunning regardless! Actually, in that thread, the lack of tessellation makes most of the textures look more natural. It's the framerates that I find pretty staggering. The fluidity of the game while producing such graphics is really nice. Very smooth.

It's crashed for me twice now, which is disappointing, but I'm about 5 hours in, so it's not particularly prominent. It's just a shame that you can't skip the two minute tunnel intro when you start the game up! Pretty infuriating sitting through that!

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Quoting: Quote from CaldazarSo you shouldn't accept tolerate Steam's DRM just because it is more convenient but because you weighted the good Steam brings vs the bad.
Boycotting Ubisoft or EA for example is a completely different decision although based on the same premises.

No, I don't personally accept that. It's definitely about convenience for me. Steam has DRM, which is technically bad, but I don't notice it. At all. Ever. And if do, ever, notice it, then I'll re-evaluate whether Steam is good or bad. At the moment, it's all good. Everything about Steam is good, for me :
1. Prices are reasonable, sales are incredible.
2. Downloads are fast, really fast.
3. Updates are automatic.

There are literally (again I'll stress "for me") no downsides. 

YMMV, I accept that.

Oh, and Stallman is very black and white on his website, which is what I base my information on. There is no middle ground with his views there. Don't have children. Don't use WEP or WPA on your WIFI. Don't give money to beggars. There's a lot of very hard black/white views on there and he endorses those views by using his name as the website. It's his website.

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Wow, Dima, that quote makes Stallman sound like a reasonable guy. And "reasonable" isn't a word I tend to associate with him. He's very, very black and white on most issues and I find a lot of his views extremely unpalatable. Check his website for examples, of which there are many.

Totally agree though with your/his view though. Wouldn't it be great to see Steam help get to the point where Ubuntu (or Linux generally) is commanding a fair proportion of games-playing market share? At that point, those users have a voice. And if they vote with their wallet then, they'll have a viable impact on sales and can actually drive change. Right now, if you vote with your wallet, you won't be heard. You won't even be noticed.

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You know, I've just realised that this awesome news about Metro comes just one week before the incredible PixelJunk Shooter releases on Ubuntu via Steam too! I'm gonna have to work hard at not getting divorced over the next couple of weeks! :D

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Quoting: Quote from ShmerlSupporting DRM is inherently bad, since it helps its proliferation. I hope we don't need to go into lengthy discussion why DRM itself is bad. But it's bad enough to avoid it outright. So there is some conflict here. You might want to support games which push better drivers, but you don't want to support ones which proliferate DRM. For me second issue has higher priority.

That's an admirable stance, but not one I can get behind, sorry. It's a little too Stallman for me. If you take that stance and apply it to everything in your life you'll be giving up a fair list of things. In fact, off the top of my head: every console, Steam, some Desura, all Apple products, most Android products (unless you bypass Play and take your chance on the malware infested third party appstores), every Bluray disk, BBC iPlayer, Netflix, Lovefilm (pretty much every online film repository bar Youtube), most DVD's (the ones encoded with CSS certainly, and good luck knowing which are before you buy them), most e-books and certainly anything to do with Kindle. There's probably lot of other examples, but most of that list affects me directly.

In fact, about the only thing that isn't governed by DRM digitally these days is music. And probably that only because of radio stations.

So, yeah, pretty admirable. But not for me. I like a balance, and a little DRM is acceptable provided it in no way gets in my way. And for me, Steam doesn't.

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Humble Bundle might have started a pebble rolling down the mountain, but it would still be up there in the peaks if it wasn't the mighty push that Valve gave it when they started encouraging developers to go Linux all those months ago. They're not perfect, but I don't see how they've "turned sour" and are now "bad news for Linux".

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