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Quoting: scaineweirdly aggressively rude

That's an odd take on a school yard spin on the name. It was meant to be comical but also on point, Pop_OS is a pretty horrible distro. There is a lot more that differentiates POP_OS from others, it's not just "just Gnome with tiling features and a dock." This is why every time I've tried it it's been brutally broken where a meh Ubuntu build works just fine. Plus anything based on Gnome gets a 100% NOPE for me. GTK has been broken by design for years now for specific things and Gnome doesn't care as they push for their Apple like organizational "direction." Due to that I won't even try anything Gnome / GTK based anymore because it is broken on my hardware config...by design.

I've said this before, and I'm pretty passionate about it - the last thing a tiny niche needs is half of that niche shitting on the other half for reasons that don't even affect them. You don't use Gnome, or rate it? Fine. But poking childish names at the whole distro and indeed, one of the extremely rare corporate sponsors of Linux as a whole? It's just not necessary.

Not saying that criticism isn't valid or welcome, but that's not what you were doing. "GTK is broken" and "broken by design", is also about as helpful, insightful and constructive as calling the whole distro "PukeOS". It's just petty and it diminishes the entire Linux ecosystem unnecessarily.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: scaineThat's a beautiful looking case. Very tempted... but no need for a new PC right now. One to keep an eye on.

Quoting: Guestmore like Puke_OS!

Seriously? It's just Gnome with tiling features and a dock. No need to be weirdly aggressively rude about it.

Nah, they janked it more with 22.04 and called it Cosmos or something. I tried installing it on my Thinkpad P52and it felt like I'd installed it on a 386 with an early VGA card! It was a slide show. Then randomly after trying to get it to update, it started working better... but then they built their packages to depend on not having gnormal gnome-session installed (like I tried installing their nvidia-prime package and it'd remove gnome and install cosmos) so I did what I didn't think I'd do... installed Ubuntu and ripped out snapd.

Sad as I really think that's a missing niche; a distribution that is released every 6 months with a new Gnome that is Debian based that doesn't have snapd. Basically Fedora; but Debian.

Pretty sure you can turn Cosmos off with a couple of sliders in the control panel.

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Quoting: Anza

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI tried collections with using genre tags a while ago. It was cool up until the point a game had two matching tags. Then it'll duplicate that game in your list and you have to manually remove one of the games from one of the new "automatic" collections.

That got annoying fast.

So back to manually organizing by genre with no duplicates it was :tongue:

That's interesting. I haven't noticed that though and I have collection that matches three tags: adventure, point & click and story rich. Either the problem has been fixed or the problem might be bit more complicated than that.

Yeah.. just tried it, it's still a thing :grin:

If you create a category that matches only tag "Survival", another that matches only tag "stealth", and finally one that only matches tag "RTS", you game list will look like this:

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I don't think I understand the issue. That's how I'd expect the feature to work. What were you expecting?

I see now what he means, he doesn't like a game to appear in multiple categories.

Obviously a game can be both Horror and FPS and therefor appear in both those categories, to me that is fine.

But a game can be in two categories. How can you de-dupe that? It's suddenly missing from, say, the FPS list? That doesn't make any sense - if you look at the FPS collection, you'd be missing out on the games that are in the Horror collection because you'd manually remove it?

I feel like I'm missing how BlackBloodRum expects these collections to work.

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That's a beautiful looking case. Very tempted... but no need for a new PC right now. One to keep an eye on.

Quoting: Guestmore like Puke_OS!

Seriously? It's just Gnome with tiling features and a dock. No need to be weirdly aggressively rude about it.

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Quoting: BlackBloodRumI tried collections with using genre tags a while ago. It was cool up until the point a game had two matching tags. Then it'll duplicate that game in your list and you have to manually remove one of the games from one of the new "automatic" collections.

That got annoying fast.

So back to manually organizing by genre with no duplicates it was :tongue:

That's interesting. I haven't noticed that though and I have collection that matches three tags: adventure, point & click and story rich. Either the problem has been fixed or the problem might be bit more complicated than that.

Yeah.. just tried it, it's still a thing :grin:

If you create a category that matches only tag "Survival", another that matches only tag "stealth", and finally one that only matches tag "RTS", you game list will look like this:

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I don't think I understand the issue. That's how I'd expect the feature to work. What were you expecting?

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I think we can all agree with cheater that there are probably better, more flexible and innovative ways that repairs could be carried out. And I think we can all agree with various other voices in this thread that in the real world, putting these into practice can be challenging and carries some risks.

I'm just glad that Valve are actually taking the first baby step towards that more flexible model, by devolving the repairs to global centres that can turn around devices more effectively. Fingers crossed it's the first improvement of many.

As for me, cheater, even if your model was available to me right now, today, free of charge and with my warranty intact after I carried out my own repairs... I wouldn't use it. I'm not comfortable opening up my device to do those repairs and honestly even I was, doing so is a waste of my time. This is as true of my steam deck as it is of my washing machine.

I actually remember opening up my three-year-old GBA to fit a front light many years ago. It worked, but it took me hours, it was stressful, and I managed to get some dust under the display that I never managed to get rid of. Never again! :grin:

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Quoting: Drakker

Quoting: scaineIf Tyron doesn't have immediate cashflow issues, and actually cares about their reputation as a game developer, then I completely agree with their caution. Despite the fact that I'd really like to play this, but as I say, without Steam multiplayer, I can't see me buying this.

How does Steam handle community servers? I have yet to play a game on Steam where they are a thing. There's no on demand server instances for VS... I guess you could choose to share your single player instances with your friends on Steam and allow them to join through there, but that would be about all the benefits Steam would give you. In the end it would still be like Valheim where you have to tell your friends on which community run server you are playing, giving them the IP/domain like we used to do years ago, and completely bypassing the Steam multiplayer thing.

Well, for something like Don't Starve Together, the "server" is just your own PC. You create the world locally, then use Steam's multiplayer to invite friends to it. I imagine that VS would use the same approach.

The main point here is that I know if my friends are online, what they're laying, and inviting them to play is as simple as right clicking their name and choosing "invite to game". I can message them, voice with them, etc. Maybe VS makes it trivially easy to do something similar for multiplayer - and that's great, because it has the advantage of running on something like GOG too. But I'm less likely to be playing it in the first place, because 99% of my gaming is on Steam.

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Putting aside how condescending you are in this entire reply, I find it pretty ironic that you attack someone for claiming to be a legal expert (which they didn't), then go on to try to appear to be an expert in European law (by "researching" whatever the hell that means). And the comment you're replying to was mainly talking about America anyway. Sheesh.

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Quoting: 1xokWhere are these repair centers located?

They haven't said. All they say is to open a support ticket and they'll arrange to have your unit shipped to one of their centres.

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Quoting: scaineJust read the earlier comments. Tyron has made clear several reasons (on their blog/forum - read crse's comment) why it's not a priority. I want it on Steam too, but there are good reasons it's not.

Not really good reasons. They think they'll make more money - see my prior comment - and they believe that they need to charge the same price for sales off Steam as they do for sales on Steam, which isn't at all true if they aren't giving Steam keys for sales off Steam and isn't quite true if they are giving Steam keys. It's their choice, of course, and if they don't feel their game is even at Early Access quality yet that's also their choice.

Even if you could debate those particular reasons, the main one I completely agree with is that Steam is an unbelievably harsh audience - critical, demanding, largely uneducated and unbending. And the worst part? They get to review your game publicly, allowing for a sole developer's career to be largely ruined on the basis of, say, a similarity to Minecraft.

If Tyron doesn't have immediate cashflow issues, and actually cares about their reputation as a game developer, then I completely agree with their caution. Despite the fact that I'd really like to play this, but as I say, without Steam multiplayer, I can't see me buying this.

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