Quoting: Purple Library GuyI've been using Linux for, I dunno, 25 years or something and I really hate this attitude. I don't think it's reasonable to condemn everyone who isn't a techie to fucking Windows. And I think this idea that somehow it's better if Linux stays crappy so you can keep everyone out is absolutely moronic.

Here is the point that I made: .
Here is the point you are arguing against: *points three screens to the right*

You are generally reasonable, so I guess you just got triggered by the word "gatekeeping".
Really a word that gets a lot of undeserved hate - it is a good and necessary process of community shaping.

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou don't have to do techie-type stuff to use Linux, and that's as it should be. You do have to do techie-type stuff . . . to do techie-type stuff on Linux, like install alpha software from GitLab.

That's not true and you know it.
Sometimes you DO end up having to do techie-type stuff on Linux. It is unavoidable as soon as you try to do anything outside of whatever default confinement your distro puts you in.
It happens rarely, which I agree is great, but it does happen. I'd argue it happens in every OS, too - the great thing about Linux is that the user can rather easily resolve it by following guides while Windows starts really getting in the way at this point.

It can also happen if you make some mistake (like in this case here, when you try to do "techie-type stuff" if there would be a much easier way) - which is fine, too, it happens. We all make mistakes.
The difference lies in how we react to that: Do we accept advice of those who know better or do we push the advisors away?

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Quoting: tuubiSadly, gatekeepers tend to pop up in every community.

Quoting: tuubiSadly, gatekeepers tend to pop up in every community.
Linux is for everyone, and we were all newbies once.

If you really like something, and you don't want it to change into something you don't like anymore, gatekeep.
You can still be welcoming, those are not mutually exclusive, but you have to have standards of who you do and who you do not want as a new part of the community. I don't think there is an alternative - only each person's standards will be different here.

I support people who are willing to learn, I do not support people who are not.
Yes, we were all newbies once ... now try to remember how we managed to not be that anymore - were we, maybe, willing to learn? Curious? Persistent? Did we take the advice of those knowing more than us?

I've been alive long enough to see many, many things and communities to be so friendly and welcoming to anyone new that they bent over backwards, broke and are now not even recognizable anymore.
If you measure only by the number of users, that strategy of self-abandonment is often successful.
Personally, I do not measure success like that and I'd be perfectly fine if Linux never went to or over 5-10% user share on PC - it is not for everyone (only for everyone willing to learn every once in a while) and pretending this to be different is silly.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczThis was enough "dependency hell" for me (whatever you mean it specifically means, don't care, not the point either). Maybe you enjoy tweaking and tinkering, fixing and reading instructions to get something installed. That's ok and cool. But do not expect that from others automatically, please?

I don't think Linux is for you if you are that unwilling to deal with a simple readme.

Linux has gotten way easier, but I certainly hope it never reaches the levels of Windows where everything is made to appear so simple users aren't expected to think anymore.
Hell, not even Windows is actually so simple in all cases.

Quoting: dziadulewiczAppImage? Will not touch those, sorry. And like i said already: no big deal as i don't need Cooler Control. And thanks for your concern.

So someone suggested you the one-click solution you needed, but it's still "not your thing".
That's one way to handle communication, I guess :grin::grin:

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Can confirm.
I had never used any fan or RGB controlling software before and it took me maybe an hour or two to get going and configure things the way I wanted them.

Most difficult part was figuring out which fan in the software represented which fan in the hardware - no labels on the cables connecting the fans to the commander core, so I had to do it the hard way...

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This is gonna make the Steam game lists even more of a mess.

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Quoting: junibegoodThey make a colorful pixel-art game in which you play a magic blob, and the first adjective that comes to their mind about it is "immersive" ?

On hot days like these, I can very much relate to feeling like a blob.

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Quoting: GuestWhere does your statement comes from?
I would not be that sure about that.

What wvstolzing said, basically.
GPU stands for graphics processing unit - it should be fairly self-explanatory what it is good at, drawing things and making calculations used in drawing things (and nowadays a bunch more like de- & encoding, raytracing, etc.).

CPUs are for general calculations. You can render with a CPU, but there's a reason you usually don't - it is pretty inefficient.
Another advantage is the rendering precision, it is very easy to spot a difference - normal CPU rendered text can be a bit "rough" especially on really large resolutions.
Finally, rendering speed is also a factor. I'm sure we've all seen applications using normal CPU rendered UI that have been minimally sluggish when redrawing entire sections/entire screen - if this is done on the GPU, I would not expect any such small delay.
One can argue if you really need the boost of performance from GPU text rendering, but one thing that cannot be denied is that it frees the CPU up for other things as well as being straight up better at the job.

I wouldn't go out of my way to create a GPU pipeline for text rendering in my own projects, but if I was using a toolkit that offered either CPU or GPU rendering, I'd always go for the GPU variant - there's just no reason not to. And then have CPU rendering as a failsafe (not all machines have a GPU, etc.).

As I said, it is an advantage and just makes sense to do, but a strict necessity it is not.

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Quoting: GuestA perfect example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overengineering [External Link] and inefficient coding.

Need a gpu to accelerate the drawing of...text? Is it that slow?

The opposite is the case.
Making use of the GPU for drawing is vastly more efficient than using the CPU.

Is it necessary? No, of course not.
But advantageous.

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As much as I like a good Double Dragon flashback, this art style looks very generic and way too clean while past Double Dragons always brought a quite gritty/dirty futuristic feel :neutral:

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Quoting: dmoonfireAs opposed to being self-hosted network services first and happen to have an instance for those who don't want to manage a hosted ve4aion themselves.

That's still paid-for, you just pay someone else for the hosting, not the editor dev.

Either way, I agree it would be nice if they gave you tools for self-hosting.

Quoting: ShadMessaMultiplayer what's a multiplayer code editor ???

Multiple people editing a file at the same time while seeing what the others are doing.

It's been a bit of a fad recently. You know, the kind of thing executives get super giddy about, but most actual developers roll their eyes when they aren't looking ;)

There are of some cases where it can be useful (say debugging an especially nasty bug or ironing out interfaces, etc.).
And it is nice to not have to deal with merge issues in case two people edited the same file at the same time.
But overall I'd say it's a nice little thing, but has the distinct taste of a solution looking for a problem. I've been doing this coding thing for 15+ years and don't think I ever thought "boy, I wish someone else could also edit this file right now".

Plus who the hell wants to have someone else (potentially) looking over their shoulder all the time while coding? :grin::grin::grin:

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