@dpanther what is the difference with siduction compared to just running sid?

If only Debian stable came with optional backports of the Plasma desktop, then I would marry it and love it forever. :wub:

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@Cyril you are absolutely right, I completely overlooked that part of your post, my bad. DrMcCoy did indeed answer my question. Thank you McCoy!

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And a thing to keep in mind, both sides in an argument can be at fault at the same time for different reasons.

It is wrong for people to vehemently demand support from the developer for the AUR package (or any other downstream package) causing issues.

But his handling of this and the licensing last year, as well as the whole Swanstation-debacle, it's not exactly mature behaviour.

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So this is step one. Next step will be removing Linux support entirely, because I'm sick of the headaches and hacks for an operating system that only compromises 2% of the userbase, and I don't even use myself.

Since people seem to be spreading misinformation (yay), let's make some things clear:

Linux support is not being removed from DuckStation, I have no immediate plans to do that.,

Not sure how he got to play the "spreading misinformation (yay)"-card, when he was the one releasing the statement...

Speaking of, with regards to his fuming about "not allowing packaging", any license masters out there? From my reading of the license:

a. License grant.

1. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Public License,
the Licensor hereby grants You a worldwide, royalty-free,
non-sublicensable, non-exclusive, irrevocable license to
exercise the Licensed Rights in the Licensed Material to:

a. reproduce and Share the Licensed Material, in whole or
in part, for NonCommercial purposes only; and

b. produce and reproduce, but not Share, Adapted Material
for NonCommercial purposes only.

This should explicitly allow what an AUR package is, right? It isn't a derived work, it's just a non-commercial recipie for getting the material. Am I missing something?

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I believe they mean sales of games containing (themes of) rape, incest and child sexual abuse (i.e. "rape, incest and child sexual abuse game[s]" treated as one unit with several modifiers before the noun; "game sales" isn’t separate from the rest), but they certainly took some syntactic shortcuts saying it.

Oh absolutely, that's how they will defend it. But they took that shortcut deliberately to modify the emotional weight of the sentence. By hiding the "game sales" at the end there behind the emotionally heavy words it effectively ends up hidden in plain sight and the sentence takes on a whole different meaning, while giving plausible deniability to the writer.

It is unfortunately a common rhetorical tactic you see in politics all the time.

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Looking at Collective Shout, I can't wait for the future where people are more concerned about victims than trying to appear to be morally superior... Good lord, it's lazy... They even straight up admit, they have a singular unnamed person looking for things that are described as:

"[...]too distressing for us to make public."

Which is of course always a convenient way to avoid actually defending your claim.

Re: Your corporations facilitating and profiting from rape, incest and child sexual abuse game sales

Note how it isn't mentioning fictional themes; it is directly accusing payment processors of profiting from actual abuse with real victims.

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Well... I was actually using PayPal to pay on Steam, but there is no reason for me not to switch so I guess I will then.

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To put it a different way, no doubt they exist today, but if Fedora and Ubuntu were to stop having them, at what point would Flathub or whoever be saying "man, these things are a pain to maintain, we should drop them"? Why is the effort different, and who in the Flatpak world has the workforce and motivation to put it in if it's being claimed to be too hard for major Linux distributions?

Agreed, and this does not even address the elephant in the room:

Flatpak is Red Hat.
Flatpak is FreeDesktop, FreeDesktop is Red Hat.
Fedora might claim to be independent from Red Hat, but not really. In theory yes, in actuality no.

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Getting flashbacks to the absolute shitshow 2 years ago when Fedora had another brilliant proposal that people went to war over, I thought I recognized Fabios name from the discussions. If you forgor, perhaps purged your memory banks or just live under rock-sized boulders, you may interwebsearchnaningans the following: F40 Change Request: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Yeah, no. This guy can't convince me he could not see the big picture with the SteamDeck, EoL for Win 10 etc.

And his attempt at an excuse for picking 44 instead of something reasonable like 48 or even 50 kinda confirms it for me. He knew what he did, and knew how it would be perceived, he wanted the drama.

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While I don't remember the name of it, it always warms my nostalgic heart to see the hardware monitor you use on the right side of your screen @mrdeathjr. :wub:

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