Well, if I compile the game without Denuvo and that's literally the ONLY change made, and I get a performance difference on the same machine used to test, I think it's pretty safe to say that the cause of the discrepancy is indeed related to Denuvo.

You would think that...

That's right, I'm looking at you, ituneshelper.exe! :angry:

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I know the BS Denuvo is spreading, but the latest example that comes to my mind is Jedi Survivor. It was just a terrible stutter test, totally unplayable, even on high end hardware, before they removed Denuvo.

It's the third game I personnally witness where there is a major performance/experience boost, when Denuvo is removed.

The thing is, it is not just a "Denuvo: On/Off" situation. While Denuvo is a complete product, you have to integrate it into your game. How you do that will affect the result. Even if you add a compile option to enable/disable your Deunvo integration (like is commonly done with Debug/Release builds), and you get a performance difference, all you know is that you have a performance difference, but crucially you don't know why.

They always hide this behind "other updates", but I've not seen such day an light difference, in other update contexts.

Releasing something to production is expensive and time consuming (for both developer and user), so you generally don't do it just to try one thing, and instead bunch several things into the new version.

If on the other hand there was a beta version that specifically is just to test Denuvo on/off, then that is a different matter, they are much cheaper to release and can contain just one specific fix.

(edit: for the record, I've not seen any convincing evidence that it actually works and delivers more revenue for the devs, so I don't advocate for denuvo in any context.)

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Definately not easy to find if you aren't used to it, but all it does is allow it to start the OBSE-loader like with the other Bethesda games. Hope that helps!

source: https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/umu-protonfixes/blob/0b409b02a7f8fcb9c2905b1724b8749dfbe96b6f/gamefixes-steam/22330.py [External Link]

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Many thanks, as always, GE! :heart:

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Love the Wii-pointer there mrdeathjr :woot:

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Valve might also be looking for talent to hire with this. Which would be both cool and smart.

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also the patch similar to this one was in Proton for years and is not known to introduce problems (before UFFD support was added in kernel 6.7 there was similar mechanism introduced with a custom patch in SteamOS and some custom kernels which Proton was using).

From how I'm reading the commit message, similar functionality seems to already exist in Proton.

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Bloody shame the staff has to keep taking the L for what was a f-up by upper management.

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We are only talking about roughly a week in the end of October of 2024. Which includes Halloween and the week leading up to Thanksgiving for the American market. I'd expect to see some drops in player count in general during that period.

There is also only 4 weekend days within that range discounting any special holidays.

None of this seems particularly exciting especially when you also consider the player count trend during the same period: https://steamdb.info/app/1172470/charts/#1y [External Link]

Seems like normal corporate face saving to investors to me.

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Good Yule and a happy new year to everyone!

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