Quoting: Xaero_VincentIt's not so cut and dry. GeForce Now servers appear to be using a Xen hypervisor on a Linux server host OS and running Windows Server 2016 as a VM guest. Linux is still involved behind the scenes and the Windows version isn't counted as Windows 10 on Steam survey but as Windows 2016, so it won't add to the Windows 10 market share.

Xen and Linux host don't matter, since it still runs Windows for the game itself.

I view Geforce Now used by Linux gamers simply as dual booting extended to the streaming form. I don't think dual booting Windows is a good thing, same with Geforce Now.

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Quoting: SolitaryWe might discuss and speculate if it's wise decision in a business sense to limit your potential consumer base, but ethically it is up to the developer/publisher how and where to sell it.

For artists, limiting audience is the antithesis of their normal goal - their art reaching more people. Exclusivity is about limiting the audience, to force more people to use a particular seller.

From normal creator perspective, exclusivity means making less money, since they profit from wider reach. When sellers (stores) buy and control creators, then this stuff starts kicking in. Like in the above example.

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Quoting: Liam DaweSame with Steam, you won't be buying and playing Portal/Half-Life on GOG or Epic now will you and no one complains about that (I'm sure someone does but you get my point).

People fall for this, but I wouldn't say they see it as good thing. In fact, a lot of people complained about Epic pushing exclusivity (I suppose since they are the new example).

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Quoting: Liam DaweIn normal situations exclusivity can be bad for consumers, yes. It's quite different when it's the store making the games themselves, like Stadia will be doing.

I don't see how it makes it any better. Users who don't want to use that store (or can't for whatever reason), won't be able to play those games. Exclusivity is all about excluding users. So I never see it as good.

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Quoting: Liam DaweIts a streaming service, no desktop versions.

Normal creators (developers) should not limit their games to one form factor / store, etc. Exclusivity is a bad thing by design. Clearly though, when such platform owners buy studios, they don't want them to work like normal developers.

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Quoting: Xaero_VincentPersonally, I prefer GeForce Now at $5 per month and while it isn't as simple to get running (requires an Android x86 9.0 K49 VM and USB mouse pass-through), it works fine on Linux once that's done. Plus GFN has most of the Battle Royale games that Linux gamers want to play but can't normally due to Easy Anti-Cheat and BattlEye.

Except Geforce Now is still using Windows as was pointed out many times. So still a problematic option for Linux users.

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Will they release their games for normal desktop Linux too, or they'll remain Stadia exclusive? In general, exclusivity is a bad thing.

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Quoting: elmapulanother thing to consider is that google already tried to support wine in the past, looks like they came to the conclusion that it was not worth it.

When was it exactly and do you have some sources about how it failed?

Quoting: elmapulif wine was an solution, they wouldnt have to stream anything.

Streaming vs local is completely orthogonal to Wine vs native. You can have all combinations.

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I still don't get it, why Google can't increase their list of potentially supported games by integrating their SDK with Wine as a fallback until they get more native Linux Vulkan games. They must have some reason why they didn't do it.

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Wayland + Vulkan: 🚀

I suppose it's going to be using WSI, rather than EGL in that case?

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