Quoting: GuestThey are not re-writting games. The vast majority of the code remains the same between platforms. Converting D3D api calls to Vulkan calls is not a huge task if there is incentive for it, AKA a new hardware platform to support. Do we need to remind you that the PS4 has its own API? Do people rewrite games just for the PS4?

Well, porting some custom renderer to a new API is actually the hardest task, like Icculus pointed out several times in the past. After all, that's the main intent behind lock-in proponents' insistence on refusing to support common APIs (Vulkan). They tax developers who release for multiple platforms with requirement to support their lock-in in addition to anything else they support.

Supporting GNM on PS or DX on Xbox and Metal on Apple's junk in addition to Vulkan everywhere else is a burden. That's why it would be good for all that lock-in garbage to disappear eventually, like disappeared ActiveX, Silverlight, Flash and so on, which got replaced with proper Web technologies.

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Quoting: KelvinhboI'm pretty sure that is what Stadia is doing, you would have to be delusional to think they are recompiling Direct X games like Destiny 2 for Linux to be played on Stadia, I'm not talking about Vulkan games like Doom 2016, I made that pretty clear.

Instead of being "sure", do some research first. Otherwise it's a waste of time. You clearly have no clue about Stadia technology stack.

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Quoting: KelvinhboI'm pretty sure they are just running the games over Vulkan and calling that a native game, or do you actually think they are re-writing the whole games and making Linux exclusive binaries?

Yes, they are. Stadia runs Linux and they aren't using Wine. So how exactly do you understand "over Vulkan" but not a Linux binary?

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Quoting: KelvinhboProton is not just a "band-aid", it's revolutionary, and all I'm trying to say is that the resources and time that are being wasted on Linux native ports could be better used on making Proton better, compatible with all games and anti-cheat systems. At this time maintaining multiple ports of games is expensive, unnecessary and unreasonable.

They are already making native Linux port for Stadia, so this argument makes no sense.

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Quoting: LinuxwarperThe dev I mentioned [External Link] who said Stadia and Linux is far to different.

Not sure what he is talking about, one liner answers using terms like "SKU" don't instill confidence that he knows the subject matter (what kind of developers say "SKU"?).

Also, what kind of NDA?

The other question not only doesn’t have a quick answer, it would also break NDA’s to answer fully.

Does Stadia impose NDA on developers? Never heard about it before.

There is a video from one Bethesda developer [External Link] on the other hand, which says explicitly, that targeting Stadia is very close to regular Linux, and he even explicitly recommends to make the game run on regular Linux first, when developing for Staida. And he didn't say anything about NDA. So something is fishy about the above answer like "yeah, it's hard and so on and so forth, but I won't explain why because NDA".

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Quoting: mylkaits on stadia.i dont know how different the stadia OS is to an desktop distro, but kernel, vulkan and maybe mesa (or AMD delivers their own stadia driver) should be the same

Stadia is using amdvlk. Though I wonder if advancements in radv/aco will change that in the future.

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Oh, so here we see the outcome that was expected from better publishers. Once something is released for Stadia, they can release for regular Linux too. Good development. Would be even better if they released it on GOG too.

Hopefully we'll see more of these kind of developments.

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Is anyone actually working on adding hardware sensors to Mesa overlay? I'd rather use upstream than forks.

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However Google already have NVIDIA beat in one respect which is Linux support since Stadia works on Linux, GeForce Now currently does not.

More importantly, Stadia actually runs Linux, while Geforce Now runs Windows. Not something Linux gamers should be striving to support.

Quoting: melkemindI hope Google learns from Nvidia and starts offering a away to play games you already have in your Steam/GOG libraries rather than having to buy online-only versions of those games.

For whatever reason, Google decided not to use Wine, so they are only adding native games which will be a slow process. If anything, I expect Valve to roll out some streaming service where Wine will be used to expand the library of native Linux games. After all, they directly invested into Wine / Proton development.

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Just tested it, and it's too buggy to play. At least intro simply gives some black screen. Not worth it IMHO, since developers aren't likely to continue fixing it. I'll try Windows version in Wine.

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