GOG Linux version is out! (Probably for a few days already, but I've just noticed).

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Quoting: GuestIt replaces the Mesa package, but worked just fine :-)

The whole point is not to replace Mesa package. For some Mesa-aco breaks the desktop.

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Quoting: x_wingYou may want to add meson instructions too. From my point of view, is far easier to setup: https://www.mesa3d.org/meson.html [External Link]

Yeah, I'm planning to rewrite it, especially since Debian switched to Meson anyway. I updated my script to use it (Wiki links to it), just didn't get to bring Wiki up to date as well.

See: https://gist.github.com/shmerl/f4e5f76871239158cf083e37c5da56f4 [External Link]

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Quoting: massatt212im not so good at the linux stuff
its kinda hard. if their is a step by step guys point me to the direction

I wrote a guide with some general ideas (though it's a bit out of date for building steps). I'll revisit it once Debian testing will get unfrozen. It focuses on Debian though. But the method to run stuff with custom built Mesa in non standard location is generic.

See: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/wiki/Building_Mesa_from_source

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Congratulations and thanks for your work and to all contributors here! Let's hope there will be many more good news to cover.

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Quoting: ZapporI made a PPA for Ubuntu, please help me test it! https://launchpad.net/~ernstp/+archive/ubuntu/mesaaco [External Link]

Froze at Ubuntu login Screen lol

I don't think you should be using experimental Mesa to replace system one. It's always a bad idea. Just build it and load on demand only with games that you test, without touching system packages that affect DE experience.

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Quoting: RCLThink about that. You, as a developer, are facing the choice: spend your next month solving problems that unblock additional 10 thousand of your userbase on Windows (by e.g. trying to find workarounds for driver problems or solving that Rainmeter issue, or optimizing your game to run on poorer hardware), or spend your next month adding a thousand or so potential Linux users (whose setups are going to be probably even more diverse and come with worse problems than Rainmeter).

Also, I think your political analogy is wrong. A lot of Windows users with bad hardware are poor, whereas Linux gamers can be rich enough to afford beefy PCs and good graphics cards. So if you're thinking along the political lines, think who you're going to exclude in the above scenario - some poor kids playing on their mom's Intel laptop from work running Windows, or some rich 20-something who built himself a Linux PC and wants to play your game.

My point is: don't judge the people. Monopolies are bad, I agree, but people using monopolistic products - both users and developers - are not bad themselves.

I wouldn't make any assumptions about Windows vs Linux users in regards to what they can afford. If anything, Windows users need to spend more money due to paying Windows tax that goes to MS. So if someone really needs to save, they'd rather use Linux, which will slash down their PC price by around a $100.

And my point was about developers reducing choice. I.e. those who aren't releasing for Linux are simply preventing Linux users from accessing their work. You can't compare that to "we didn't spend enough on making Windows version better". The former is simply nothing at all. And while developers can't be directly blamed for perpetuating such lock-in, they are helping MS cement it, so they can't claim they aren't part of the problem.

That's why tools like Wine, Proton and etc. are good, they help break the lock-in and remove that lack of choice that developers imposed on users.

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Quoting: GuestI suspect nvidia by now also simply can't open source their driver code. Too much third party in there. AMD went through that pain a while ago because they knew it would be the better option long-term than trying to fix up fglrx.

Not the current code, sure. But they can totally stop being jerks to Nouveau, and back it with their resources to match their blob in features and performance. They just don't care. It's clear it's not about issues that AMD had with tedious process of replacing what can't be opened.

Also, consider Nvidia's anti-competitive attitude. They profit by charging more for blobs that unlock features based on the market. If the driver would be open, everyone would be able to use their hardware to full potential, without any middleman dictating who can do it and charging them for it. It's likely the main reason they don't want Nouveau to succeed.

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Quoting: BeamboomYou need to be especially motivated to reach those particular people, give priority to them over the others, at the expence of the added cost. You choose some people over others.

Except Windows users will have access to it no matter what. So it's not about reaching Linux vs reaching more Windows users. It's reaching Linux users vs not reaching Linux users.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI think what Oracle gets is that, whatever the point of open source is, it probably isn't getting Larry Ellison an even longer yacht, so they are deeply suspicious.

Heh, it reminds me this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m01s [External Link] (starts at 33:01).

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