I don't think you need to worry about ray tracing. It's an overhyped topic.

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Quoting: mylkai dont see AMD winning here. at least nvidia has a competitor again and i hope both lower the prices for the new generation soon

They don't aim to. They can't beat Nvidia in power consumption yet for example, due to using GCN. But they still need to offer something competitive, so they are doing it.

If you expect something more drastic, that will only happen with new architecture.

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That's interesting:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3332205/amd/amd-ceo-lisa-su-interview-ryzen-raytracing-radeon.html [External Link]

“Some people may have noticed on the package some extra room,” she said with a chuckle. “There is some extra room on that package and I think you might expect we will have more than eight cores.” — Lisa Su.

So more than 8 core Ryzens are going to come out eventually.

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Quoting: mylkathis card is also senseless
its the same price as the 2080 and as fast
the only difference is 16GB | 8GB + RT
no game needs 8GB so why would i need 16?

if this card isnt much much cheaper than a 2080 i dont see 1 reason to buy it

It's surely not a mainstream card. We should wait for something more reasonably priced while high end at the same time, I think.

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I'd say, if there are no PCIe 4.0 GPUs coming, then there is no need to change the motherboard for Zen 2.

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Quoting: edmondoThat's because the doubled the memory bus width up to 4096 for an impressive bandwidth of 1 TB/s.
I think this last value is relevant for performance.

Such bandwidth is only needed because of all the RAM (parallel access). With less RAM they'll need less bandwidth.

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Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiTI hoped for a new APU for Lenovo A495 in 2019. :/

That will happen, but using 12nm Ryzen 2 (Zen+) + Vega. Mobile AMD is always one year behind desktop one, so nothing unexpected here.

A495 seems like an overkill (using Ryzen Pro). E495 would be more like it with refreshed APU.

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Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiTWell, just a normal die shrink should yield in better performance usually. That's not a major step-up. I hoped for a new APU for Lenovo A495 in 2019. :/

Depends on the architecture too. For example original Ryzen wasn't just a die shrink, it was a brand new architecture. That's why it performs so well. AMD didn't do that with GPUs yet. But it's in the pipeline.

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Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiT7 nm but only GTX 2080 performance? Why? For the same price?

Nice only because we got a open well performing driver on Linux for AMD. Still I'm not much impressed.

Because that's limitation of GCN architecture. Reduced process allows them to squeeze more, but the limiting factor now is GCN. For really major performance breaktrhough, you'll need their super SIMD, which is post GCN architecture. So another year or more for that. They are working on it, so don't worry.

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16GB HBM2 at $700... I hope they'll have 8GB variants. So much VRAM might be good for 3D modeling, but I doubt gaming needs so much yet.

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