Quoting: jensThough I'm pretty convinced that the typical manager of a company is doing the best in his capabilities to help his company and his team to prosper. There are most likely jerks among them, but as stated, I prefer to grant advantage and prefer not to judge the person based on actions that seem jerky to me or anybody else. I'm fine with calling an actions jerky, but I prefer to keep the respect of the actual person until there is really no way to misjudge like with your example.

So who makes decisions like this? Their management. Saying that decisions are jerky but the company is not doesn't sound convincing in the least. If such decisions are characteristic for the company (i.e. they happen as a rule), the company can deservedly be called a jerk.

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Quoting: jarhead_hAnd it should be said that NVIDIA WILL NOT be supporting Freesync because AdaptiveSync is NOT Freesync. Freesync is AMD, and Samsung and LG and other brands have been adding it to their TVs/monitors because it adds a cheap selling point to sell their TV's as monitors, which has been gaining in popularity for a decade. AdaptiveSync is a VESA standard - VESA is the same organization that sets the standards for all displays.

Looks like some major confusion here. Adaptive sync is a feature in DisplayPort protocol. FreeSync is a whole end to end solution that's using that DisplayPort feature.

Quoting: jarhead_hI honestly don't think that it's a good time to buy a display. In fact I think that it's a TERRIBLE time, to buy either a video card or any kind of monitor. I have been using a 45in 1080pTV for eight years or so as a monitor and started jumping for joy when I discovered that 43in monitors are a thing. The problem is that they are all 4K @ 60hz and I want 120hz. And HDR. And Freesync/AdaptiveSync. Well, LG just announced their OLED TV line will be supporting all of that with the inclusion of HDMI2.1. Expect Samsung to follow up with the QLED line, and just maybe ASUS and Dell too.

Buying is OK, as long as you don't expect something like 4K with 144 Hz. 2.5K (2560 x 1440) IPS monitors with 144 Hz and FreeSync do look quite interesting, and it's something today's GPUs can actually handle. 4K with high refresh rate is a red herring really.

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Is it actual adaptive sync support (as exposed to the OS), or it's just gsync working over adaptive sync (i.e. gsync without specialized hardware)?

I.e. to clarify why it can be different. In the first case it means that Linux graphics stack implementing support for adaptive sync will work with Nvidia blob and freesync monitor. In the second case, Nvidia will still require graphics stack to support gsync to work, it just will use adaptive sync between driver and monitor to implement it.

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Quoting: CFWhitmanThe only issue with my current approach is that, though the open source approach is more future proof, you find yourself on the bleeding edge when you first get a new card at least some of the time. I have Ubuntu Studio 18.10 on this machine, but I still have to use the Padoka PPA and an Ukuu loaded kernel to get Rise of the Tomb Raider to run correctly. Of course, so far it runs very well and looks very good even with the settings quite high (that is, the highest standard setting).

That's expected if you are using upstream kernel for the graphics driver. Commonly support is not backported to older kernels, so you need to use the most recent one if you have very new hardware.

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Quoting: mylkahavent they said, that they finished cyberpunk already and are just bugfixing?

Where did you hear that?

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Quoting: jensActually there is nothing wrong with reading fair and objective criticism of NVidia or whatever vendor/organization. Name calling is something else imho.

I consider it fair to call such behavior jerk. They totally deserve it. They aren't doing it out of some technical difficulty or the like. It's clearly anti-competitive. If you like whitewashing such things, don't expect everyone should.

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Quoting: jensNo NVidia (or Intel/AMD whatever) manager has ever beaten me, so I really feel no need to call one ever a jerk :). I'd state that I don't agree, vote with my wallet and just move on.

That's not going to work as in "let's accept this jerk behavior". If you don't like criticism of Nvidia's bad practices, you can skip reading it :)

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Quoting: jensSo I'm a jerk too because I don't like name calling and respect others decisions, even if I don't agree?

That's a shaky moral stance I'd say ("I respect any decisions no matter what they are"). I don't respect decisions that are done for anti-competitive purposes, which is the case here.

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Quoting: jensOnce again, feel free to disagree what Nvidia is doing and be happy with your choice for your preferred hardware vendor.

I did exactly that by using AMD. I surely disagree, and see nothing wrong in saying that Nvidia's behavior is nasty. What I find strange on the other hand, are attempts to whitewash it, especially coming from Linux users who should know better.

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Here is a relevant quote from Ilia Mirkin, one of the developers of Nouveau:

Reclocking must be done in firmware. NVIDIA now requires signed firmware to access a lot of useful functionality. They will never release the firmware in a nice redistributable manner, so the avenues for implementing it become much harder:

(a) Figure out a way to extract the firmware from their released drivers (harder than it sounds) and how to operate it to do the things we need
(b) Find a bug in their firmware to use to load our own code into the secure environment (any such exploit would be patched, but once we have a version of the firmware that's exploitable with signatures, we can just keep loading it instead of whatever's the latest)

Of course all that gets us is ... firmware which can toggle stuff GPU-side. Then we have to develop the scripts to actually perform the reclocking to pass on to the firmware. This is the hard part -- due to the wide variety of hardware, ram chips, etc there can be a lot of variation in those scripts. A single developer might only have 1% of the boards out there, but by fuzzing the vbios and seeing how the blob driver reacts, we can get much more significant coverage.

As part of the signed-everything logic, the blob driver now also verifies that the VBIOS hasn't been tampered with, which means that developing reclocking scripts will require different techniques.

Moral of the story... just get an Intel or AMD board and move on with life. NVIDIA has no interest in supporting open-source, and so if you want to support open-source, pick a company that aligns with this.

Yes, I call that jerks, because it's totally in their ability to do it. They don't want to, since they want to control the market by using their driver. Functional nouveau will totally bust that ability, since it will let users themselves decide how to use their hardware.

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