Quoting: LeopardX will be with us for a long time , i'm sure.

Reasons : Nvidia ( because of majority )

Not mature

Current games needs a mid-solution , Xwayland

It will be, but for a different reason. Because some games are tied to X. And as you said, XWayland will address those.

And Nvidia's majority will diminish, at the rate of people upgrading their GPUs, which is in several years.

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Quoting: mrdeathjrEasy because wayland and xwayland dont supported for most games

And wayland have many things to do, bugs and others

That has nothing to do with games support. It should be transparent to games, if they rely on proper toolkits like SDL and the like. If not, there is XWayland to support legacy games that plug into X directly for some reason.

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Quoting: hummer010As long as AMD can get their shit together in the laptop market, I'll agree with you.

I think they have already improved it a lot. Their Raven Ridge APUs are supposed to be very good.

See https://www.anandtech.com/show/11964/ryzen-mobile-is-launched-amd-apus-for-laptops-with-vega-and-updated-zen [External Link]

I have no idea though what experience Linux users get on these. It would be interesting to see some reviews.

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Quoting: GuestKDE devs don't care about nvidia and nvidia doesn't care about xwayland

Another reason to ditch Nvidia. In a few years, Nvidia will be barely used on Linux. See the trend on the same page you linked to.

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For the next development cycle, we can look forward to things like Direct3D 12 and Vulkan support, OpenGL ES support to enable Direct3D on Android and plenty more.

Wayland support would be very welcome too. It's time to start switching to in KDE.

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Quoting: BeamboomEnlighten me, then. What's the glaring problem here that I struggle with seeing? The religious aspect of it?

The problem is proliferation of DRM. You support this practice with your money. Your argument of "so what, the game is already closed source" is irrelevant to this point.

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It's good they didn't give up on it.

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Quoting: BeamboomBah - DRM blablabla - not to start another discussion on that topic

So let's not start it. HB are falsely advertising their release as DRM free. That's already wrong. And developers of this game promised DRM-free release by the way:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2074789246/innerspace [External Link]

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Quoting: ShmerlAnyway, since Humble are selling it DRM-free, I can buy it there.

I just bought it on the Humble store (even though they kill me on exchange compared to Steam), but it is not showing up as a DRM-free download. Sigh.

Weird. They show DRM-free icon there: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/innerspace [External Link]

May be support can help with it? They should not advertise what they don't have.

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Quoting: ShmerlWasn't it supposed to come out on GOG?

GOG turned it down :(

Strange, it doesn't look any worse than Race the Sun which they are selling. Was it because it's not their type of game, or because of other reasons?

Anyway, since Humble are selling it DRM-free, I can buy it there.

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