Yeah, Intel so far didn't start competing seriously. May be they will.

Kernel updates + custom built Mesa kind of works, but if Mesa could decrease release period, updates could come sooner to those who don't want to bother building or using unstable versions. But I suppose Mesa project have their own reasons for their current release cycle.

Developers testing with more hardware is of course better. I suspect smaller developers don't have money to buy multiple GPUs, while others don't want to bother? Any professional developer studio should for sure test on multiple GPUs.

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Not sure if comparing tensor cores in the same mix really is helpful. Those are only useful for specialized workloads. So it's like comparing apples and oranges. But sure, number of cores is one way to mitigate weaker cores. That's what Intel is doing now in CPUs.

I don't think 8K is a relevant use case still, it's more of a red herring. VR on the other hand is where this can be interesting, but uptake of VR is still pretty low.

I doubt even 4K has become relevant already. But at least if you care about higher refresh rates.

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Quoting: STiATCards should get a rating on how loud they are.

I wouldn't buy a reference card, noise being one of the reasons. AMD partners like Sapphire generally make better cooled and more silent designs since they need to differentiate in something.

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Quoting: raptor85ATI's design focuses more on fast, but fewer units, and a very thin/fast driver layer. They tend to beat nvidia in speed on a per-thread basis, but nvidia's approach is more of "tons of general purpose cores", basically the more parallel you can make the task the more advantage to nv's approach

That's not how I remember it. AMD had asynchronous compute and focus on parallelized workloads way before Nvidia and their hardware is better at it from what I know. May be something changed in the last generation, but I doubt AMD is planning to not compete in that area, it wouldn't make sense.

If by lighting you mean ray tracing, then yeah as I mentioned above Nvidia had better ray tracing hardware so far. It remains to be seen how they compare in the new iteration.

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Quoting: raptor85Official power specs from Nvidia show 3090 and 4090 have the exact same power requirements, but the 4090 actually has a better power curve (4nm process is far more power efficient than the 3xxx series 8nm process) meaning it'll draw less for like-operations as it ramps up.

Not what I've seen reported by some like Gamers Nexus, who said that power spikes on 4000 series is simply worse, which in bottom line means you need beefier power supplies.

I surely hope AMD wouldn't have this problem in 7000 series.

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Quoting: Xpander-8K gaming figures are super stupid. Ultrawide 8K is not 8K really.
-Every benchmark had FSR enabled but i didn't see any mention in what mode.

What I find a bit ironic is mention of 8K but with upscaling at the same time. A better idea in case someone wants better image quality is to use a more reasonable resolution where upscaling isn't needed :)

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Quoting: raptor85Not sure why it keeps getting said that the 4xxx series is using a lot more power, it's the same average/max power as the 3xxx series just with a new connector

From what I've read, 4000 series bumped power supply requirements. So unless someone was mistaken, it means they do draw more power.

Quoting: raptor85once you get into more advanced lighting/higher resolutions or newer engines that can offload more calculations to the graphics card/render scenes from multiple threads this will quickly fall behind the nvidia cards

Not sure what that means. Compute units are compute units. They are either faster or not. More complex computation is going to be more taxing on any hardware. I think AMD was beating Nvidia already in RDNA 2 in their compute units throughput and efficiency though. The only advantage Nvidia had were better ray tracing ASICs.

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AV1 encoder is nice as well!

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I think this is going to be not just slightly competitive, but beat Nvidia in compute power for general graphics. Not sure about ray tracing, but it supposedly improved for AMD this time as well.

What's especially nice is that they didn't increase board power (so same TDP as before), unlike Nvidia. So no need for those humongous GPUs with power draw issues.

Looking forward to some benchmarks of these new GPUs on Linux and to Sapphire models for them.

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Almost there :)

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