Quoting: ElectricPrismOnce again I arrive to the conversation feeling like I'm the only one that still sees Steam Machines 2015 as a HUGE success.

I see it as a successful boost for Linux gaming at the time. But you can hardly see it as a successful product.

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Yeah, that's why with stronger push for Steam Deck and much better software stack situation today with Vulkan and Mesa, I'd like to see that renewed effort of educating game developers to make Linux releases.

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Quoting: kuhpunktSteam Machines didn't work, because there was no software to play - because devs didn't want to port. That's the whole reason why Valve put so much effort into Proton.

I can argue the opposite. Devs didn't want to port becasue Steam Machines didn't work. Software stack wasn't ready. Marketing was non existent, potential sales didn't look promising and so on. It was too early. Proton isn't the main point here even though it helps of course.

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Quoting: kuhpunktBecause it's not a priority. It clearly didn't work in the past.

That worked just fine. Steam Machines didn't work. That's not the same as teaching games developers to release for Linux.

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What's lacking is their "porting to Linux" talks they did in the past (it was called "Steam dev days" I think?). That's not a very good sign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8ie5R4CVE [External Link]

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I was surprised about it too. Why put WiFi into the CPU?

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Quoting: MayeulCOh, I'd love for AMD to come out with big.little cores too :)

From what I've read, they aren't planning to follow Intel on this for now and rather would focus on optimizing all cores.

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Quoting: ShabbyXLinux has been doing this for years for big.LITTLE, asymmetric multiprocessing is nothing new for Linux.

Then they can plug into it, but they can have their own specifics. It also can be related to different polices of power saving.

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Quoting: denyasis

"The performance hybrid architecture of 12th Gen Intel Core processors is an architectural shift made possible by close co-engineering of software and hardware that will deliver new levels of leadership performance for generations,"

Glad to know my great grand children will see the new levels of leadership performance. I've always wanted high performing leadership.

lol :grin:

I think by "performance hybrid architecture" he means those less and more powerful cores in the same processor.

And "close co-engineering of software and hardware" is a veiled way to say that the burden will fall on operating systems to make schedulers that will have to leverage those cores in some optimal way, otherwise your performance will suffer (that's the "software" part).

Basically, don't rush to buy it, until someone (Intel I assume?) will add such scheduler for Linux (if you are even considering it). In general Intel are good at doing it though so it should appear at some point.

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DDR5 would probably benefit AMD more.

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