Sorry for my ignorance - I'm not developer but something went very wrong with game development and/or graphics SDK development (I mean everyone: OpenGL, DirectX, Vulkan) and/or GPU drivers development.

Every new AAA game means NEW nVidia/AMD driver with special workarounds for this particular game. Why?! In theory it shouldn't be needed! It is normal for every AAA premiere on Windows side. It looks like similar workarounds now are needed for Linux drivers - even when it is started via wine/proton...

Probably the same situation is on console side - every "big" title require download/install new console firmware (so in fact - new system probably with dedicated workarounds)...

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DOOM is not using DXVK because it is Vulkan native game (as option, by default it is using OpenGL), so probably in this case there is no improvement at all.

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Quoting: johndoe

Quoting: dannielloSo it depends how Valve was processed it... Add to Windows? Or Linux? Or "Other"? Or reject completely as "false data"?

As Liam already communicated with Valve - IT WILL COUNT AS LINUX PURCHASE.

Yes, I know but you talking about developer Steam account statistics. Starting from yesterday - for example Bethesda - will exactly know how many Linux gamers bought Doom.

My previous comment is about Steam hardware survey that has been collected from win32 Steam started via wine on Linux. In the past it was not clearly indicated how Valve is treating wine surveys (or at least I did not find Valve official statement about surveys from wine).

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Quoting: johndoeI'm really excited what the next steam hardware survey will tell!?

No idea how Steam hardware survey reports are processed by Valve but survey raw data has couple places that clearly indicates that Steam has been started via wine.

For example data collected by Valve from the last my survey:
Manufacturer: The Wine Project
Model: Wine
Operating system: Windows 7 (64-bit)
Wine version: wine-3.11 (Staging)

So it depends how Valve was processed it... Add to Windows? Or Linux? Or "Other"? Or reject completely as "false data"?

If they were adding it to Linux (like they should) - then Linux percentage probably will increase but probably not much. If they rejected such data in the past - perhaps Linux will gain quite big increase in statistics - perhaps even more than 1% usage! ;)

To be realistic: 10% Linux market share is not possible even if Proton will excellent support all Windows Steam games. "Average PC gamer" is not technically advanced enough to install Linux. And what for? To play games that already are working on Windows?

Unless... Valve will back to SteamMachine initiative. Steam PC that is easy to use as console could attract "average gamers" easily - console ones especially.

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Quoting: scaineI had no idea that Cannon Fodder and its follow up had launched on Linux. Those were awesome games back in the day. I might buy Cannon Fodder just for the theme tune alone!

Unfortunately Cannon Fodder on GOG it is DOS edition - especially sound is terrible.

Probably Amiga emulation it is legal nightmare, so they decided for MS-DOS edition. Anyway they should warn gamers in description that this edition has terrible sound comparing with Amiga original version... At least they could add extra Amiga version disk files without emulator - I think it should be OK from legal perspective...

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Screenshots perhaps are more recognisable because it is concerning almost all Steam users, but in my opinion much worse is that "In-Home Streaming" was not working for UE4 games for years. Not only for frozen/abandoned Steam Hardware with SteamOS, but also for still officially supported Steam Link. Nice, so these users are waiting more than 3 years to start streaming UE4 games...

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EVERSPACE is nominated? Hmmm... Officially EVERSPACE is not available on Linux (according to Steam/GOG websites). It means that it could be abandoned. On the other hand - Ticket to Ride in theory has Linux version (according to Steam website), but in fact it is obsolete - developer has abandoned Linux version some time ago...

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Quoting: slaapliedjeOut of curiosity is there anyone here who has already decided if it is a Linux based system that they will back it? I am still sort of on the fence, but at the same time it seems it could be an awesome Steam Link replacement.

If it was about Commodore/Amiga brand - definitely yes. Nostalgia is bigger than common sense:)
Apart nostalgia - no way to throw money to crowdfunding prototype that is very unlikely to be success. If it will be really on the market - then I will consider to buy it.

Look at Oculus. From my perspective they failed. Oculus Rift is available on market only because of Facebook acquisition. Even that - it is not the same Oculus from Kickstarter... Will be Linux version they said... It will be open they said... No Linux SDK. Facebook Oculus Market is the same "open" like Metro or iOS market (I mean - not open at all:). Also plenty of Oculus only exclusives that will not work on other VR without hacks. I'm glad that I did not supported them on Kickstarter.

In another words - good that Ataribox claims that it will have Linux OS (even that clues leading rather to Android), but I will wait for market launch.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeYou are partially correct. They require DRM, but they do NOT require HDCP support. I watch videos in Netflix in 1080p all the time on my Linux system. From what I understand, HDCP is really only something that is attempted to be enforced in bluray playback programs. For example, HDCP is not supported on the HTC Vive, so even in Windows I can't use PowerDVD to play a Bluray directly through to Virtual Desktop, I only get a black screen. But I have DVDFab, which decrypts the disc, then I play it through the media player classic, with MadVR plugin, I can even watch 3D movies in VR. It's AMAZING.

I meant that play high resolution content require HDCP and this is not available in Linux (Intel started implement something, but no progress).

What it is "high resolution" depends of provider.
Netflix - in theory 720p max (1080p and more require HDCP + Internet Explorer or Windows Metro application)
HBOGO - in theory 720p max
Google Play/YouTube Movies - 480p max

Perhaps theory and reality are different... Netflix and HBOGO do not provide real information what resolution is streamed. Hard to say "on eye" if it is 720p or 1080p, but I think that it is 720p.

Only Google Play/YouTube Movies provide information about streamed resolution and, unfortunately for Linux, it is really 480p and it is visible:(

Quoting: slaapliedjeAs far as a new UI around it, I'm pretty sure that launching Firefox in full screen with video playback is fairly easy, isn't it?

Start Firefox in fullscreen is easy, but navigate Netflix or HBOGO website with this joystick will be very uncomfortable.

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Quoting: TheRiddick2) My guess is they will just optimize some sort of interface to access these web features, very much doubt it will be a ALL IN ONE browser because we all know the big boys don't like competing with each other.

First: I’m not 100% sure, but probably it is not legal. Without Netflix/Hulu/etc. legal permission you cannot wrap it inside another GUI. Legal issues could be bypassed as "community mod" that user will download and install by himself. But in this situation - it cannot be officially advertised.

Second: It is not easy task to wrap one GUI into another GUI, especially when "source" is using DRM and is it very "hostile" for "third-party" modifications. Also every tiny change on source website will destroy wrapper...

Third: Netfix/HBO/Amazon require DRM and HDCP support (for resolution bigger than 720p). There is no HDCP support in Linux at all. HDCP is supported by Android...

Long story short: if they want Netflix/Hulu/etc. it will be MUCH easier for them if it will be another Android clone.

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