I'm on the 'Meh' side of the fence here.

I was excited when I *first* read that Linux support was coming. Now, after having watched like 10 hours of it on YT it just bores me.

I'd consider a sale this year for 5€ but if not, then not.

To be honest, I don't think it's coming anyways.

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I'll be honest: "Linux support" in combination with "announced" isn't even worth the headline any more, much less reading (or writing) the article.

We might as well completely skip all the "announced" here and concentrate on all things "released".

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Quoting: Mountain ManI'm basing it on the fact that Nvidia's drivers simply work better than AMD's.

That's really fair enough. All I'm trying to say is that the same is true for Windows vs Linux as a gaming platform. Yet we know better than putting the full blame on one single instance and going with the "If you're serious about gaming then you should just get Windows" line.

Then why should we give Nvidia or Feral a free pass, not even asking whether the situation is partly due to an unhealthy relation between Nvidia and game developers.

"AMD drivers suck and that's the reason why Feral ports lack support, go get Nvidia."
To me that's not enough without talking about Nvidia exploiting its market power and some game devs / porters just going with it a bit too lazily.

I can understand why they do it but I also know how that behaviour during the browser wars held back web technology for at least 10 years. Let's just hope history doesn't repeat with the new graphics technology.

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"Consumer logic"? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

By that I mean putting the blame for a problem on the first instance that makes the problem apparent to you, without actually knowing.

"Linux sucks for anything but servers. Anybody who is serious about gaming needs to get a Windows PC."
"Firefox (or Mozilla) sucks at rendering webpages. Anybody who is serious about the internet needs to get IE 7."

Both claims were made because one product was obviously superior. At least in practice. Little did people know about the actual reasons for this.

To an extend the same is true for AMD -Nvidia.

Long story short: As a consumer, don't mistake market power for quality.

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Quoting: edddeduckferalthe ones that don't have official support render using the latest Mesa git

Nice to hear. I don't care much about official support. As long as I can make it work, it's fine.

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Quoting: CaldazarFor some reason people think all Feral games don't support AMD when nothing could be further from the truth.

Brand image honestly. It's hard to reverse the first impression.
I bothered to look up the system requirement for the first couple of games and after that it was [Feral == "AMD and Intel graphics cards are not currently supported"].

Anyhow, glad to see the situation improved. With my new graphics card Tomb Raider will be one of the first games I'm going to try. We'll see how that works out.

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Quoting: Mountain ManAnybody who is serious about Linux gaming needs to get an Nvidia card.

I don't think that's true. First of all, with your consumer logic we'd all be on Windows (and probably still using IE 7).

It is true that you had more fun the last several years with a Nvidia card. But to **get** one now might be a very wrong choice.

AMD's Linux problems were on the software side (not even necessarily on AMD's software). With Vulkan, Nvidia's problems will be on the hardware architecture side.

As a serious Linux gamer, I wish I had bought a Nvidia card years ago instead of AMD, but getting one now? It doesn't look like that's going to happen, meaning Feral ports are simply no option for me, no matter whose fault it really is.

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I never played it but I have to say, nowadays game trailers aren't quite the same anymore.
View video on youtube.com

Will GOL get a Mainframe running?

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I'm with maodzedun on this.
Yeah @0aTT it might work for you and your GTX970 but only until Steam decides to drop this whole thing.

Which it might do if it turns out it can't break the vicious cycle of windows dependency.

Which it can't if people see a GTX 970 Linux PC that proudly gets presented as "Better than PS4 and XBOX (AMD card? Oh, you're shit out of luck then)" for any longer. The negative hype train is already starting to pick up speed.

So
1. We're not the target audience here.
2. Steam clearly has the better gaming OS on its hands but still can't do shit to reach its target audience because we all get fucked by crappy graphics drivers.

I see people talk about "Linux Exclusives" and whatnot, when it couldn't be more obvious that the drivers and significantly worse performance than Windows are all that's holding Linux back here.
And exactly that's where we're ready to hand out free passes because with top notch cards Linux might do better than a PS4?

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I kind of gave up on the pure concentration on those percentages. Partly because they are indeed underwhelming, let's face it, but more importantly, because I don't think anymore that they count for much right now.

While Steam is doing its thing, me and my Linux gaming machines went from being the butt of jokes to being a viable alternative in case Microsoft screws up. That is true with my friends as well as gaming community boards. No one is laughing anymore because half of them actually tried it.

And exactly this new first hand experience is what isn't represented with those percentages. "It's way easier than I thought" is a typical reaction of those who dipped their toe into the water for the first time.

They still use Windows of course, because for gaming it still is the better alternative. But they all know Linux is there and ready when they need it.
So does Steam, and I think that is the point of it all.

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My Steam Wishlist: Batman out, Mad Max in.

<smartassery>And always wait until you can download an actual copy, don't buy promises!</smartassery>

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