Quoting: Quote from Half-ShotEveryone has their reasons why they can't "switch" to Linux but one of the more prominent ones is that Linux isn't getting you as much value for money for your hardware.

Uh, what?

I switched to Linux in 2002, and haven't looked back. I had no valid reason to keep Windows around. And in the decade+ since then, I have squeezed FAR more life out of my hardware by running Linux than Windows ever could have given. I only upgraded minimally, typically due to failure (one motherboard, two HDDs) or simply want (more HDD space, or more RAM).

I haven't had an issue with printers or scanners I've bought over the years from Epson, Agfa, or HP. I have a Wacom tablet that I use from time to time. Canon Rebel DSLR camera. Logitech gamepad and Harmony programmable universal remote. All work fine out of the box, plug-n-play, outside of [easily] installing a program to actually use a few devices (like SimpleScan, DarkTable, or Congruity). That's FAR better "value" to me, considering how much of my own time I used to waste trying to get devices working, drivers and bloatware, rebooting, etc. on Windows. All the hardware I've got works just fine, but then again, I don't go around buying random shitty gear that I really don't need from obscure companies nobody's ever heard of.

Sounds to me like people make up excuses and waste their money on low-quality trash, which in turns forces them to stick with likewise for their operating system.

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I would want a black or really really dark grey console, and I'd make the light bar fairly dim, and a nice shade of blue. To match the Big Picture color scheme.

But I would want something with an NVIDIA card, myself. Or at least a removable AMD card so I could swap with my PC's NVIDIA card.

I really hope we start seeing a lot more info coming out. It's rough going with the teeny tiny trickle we've got so far, meanwhile new consoles are selling out everywhere... Come on Valve, open up the, er, valve, and let the SteamOS/Machine/Controller/games info gush!

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Quoting: Quote from neffo

Quoting: Quote from Anonymous

Quoting: Quote from SilviuThe linux depots seem to be populated as well. They were empty/unused just a few days ago... Exciting times :)

It can be fake, to get more money.

It's not profitable to fake games on Linux.

:P

lol, I missed that comment the first time through.
First devs were ignoring Linux because the market is too small and they wouldn't make money off of us. Now they're faking Steam depots in order to trick us into making them rich! Amazing.

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I already own it on PS3 disc, as well as a free downloadable copy via PS+... But I want it on Linux and my future Steam Machine. It's a really good game.

I don't generally like buying based on promises (and here we don't even have a promise, we just have hope..), but at ten bucks, I decided to stick it in my Steam Inventory until a port is released, or I give up the wait and trade it to a friend for something that does run on Linux.

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I Kickstarted the Liege trilogy... Not enjoying the wait, but I'm glad it was Greenlit.

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December 2014 is a long wait.

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Quoting: Quote from adolsonSo, I've shown you mine - you show me yours! Shooter is #1, but what are a few others you liked?

I've not played TerRover, but agree that Braid and Limbo were superb. I'd still put Shooter above them though (although it's a tough call for Braid...).

I played Might and Magic:Clash of Heroes on Android and absolutely loved it. Epic battles, very, very strategic. Is it Indie? I didn't realise.

And I didn't realise that Sony published the PixelJunk series. Good to know.

Other notable, quirky games? Possibly not Indie, but Dead Nation was a lot of fun, Hydrophobia had a great atmosphere, Landit Bandit was just... fun, and the DoubleFine games - Stacking and Costume Quest, both of which are now available on Linux which is great.

But yeah, Shooter is still up there for me. It's in my top ten, I think. Just. And if you exclude the big names (Driver SanFran, Drake, Vanquish, Borderlands, Skyrim, Portal, Zelda, Mario), it's in the top three.

Hydrophobia.. I only briefly tried that. Maybe I should give it another chance.

Clash of Heroes was developed by Capybara, who did Critter Crunch, and Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery EP, both of which were self-published. COH was published by Ubisoft, though. It reminded me of Puzzle Quest, but better in some ways, and prettier.

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Quoting: Quote from scaine

Quoting: Quote from adolson

Quoting: Quote from scainecertainly the best to grace PS3

I disagree with that statement

Go on then, I'll bite. What do you think was the best indie game to grace the PS3? Because I played an absolute ton of games on the PS3 besides the triple-A's and this was the stand out for me. In fact, all the PixelJunk games were.

The only non-Triple-A titles that could be said to surpass them, in my opinion, would That Game Company's titles - Flow, Flower and Journey. But I'd have to be convinced that you can call "That Game Company" an indie.

I'm guessing that your definition of indie means self-published? That is what it means, after all, yes? So, while Journey is (in MY opinion) a better experience (though less 'gamey' ) than Shooter, it also isn't my final answer.

That honor actually falls to one that you likely won't agree with (and that's fine): TerRover from Creat. Most people didn't give it a fair chance, typically citing control and physics issues - two things that actually make the game, not break it. Yet, these standards go out the window with seeming randomness... For example, PixelJunk Eden, Halo, GTA, Elder Scrolls, etc. are not subject to these criticisms (kinda like how you appear to think Thatgamecompany's PS3 titles are not indie, yet Q Games' are, despite both being published by Sony...). In any case, I loved TerRover. But I put the few necessary minutes into it to learn the controls, and I wound up being rewarded with a great time, and many laughs. Funnily enough, it always felt like a PixelJunk game to me - just put the trademark banner across the bottom of the screen and I bet review scores instantly shoot up.

I'd also say that I prefer Knytt Underground to Shooter, and if Vita games counted, I would add Mutant Blobs Attack from DrinkBox to the list. If we're allowed to list games that were not self-published, I'd have to add Wizardry: Labyrinth of Souls and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes to my list... I know some people (not myself) who would also put The Walking Dead (I'm guessing you'd consider this a AAA game?), Limbo, and/or Braid above Shooter.

Again, I think Shooter is great, so don't get me wrong here. We've all got preferences, and not everyone will agree. I may be the only one who feels Nier should displace the two GTA games sitting at the top of Metacritics' best PS3 games list, but then again, I know at least one other person who agrees with me on that.

So, I've shown you mine - you show me yours! Shooter is #1, but what are a few others you liked?

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Quoting: Quote from scainecertainly the best to grace PS3

I disagree with that statement, but agree that this is a really great game - my favorite of the PixelJunk series. When I ran a PlayStation-focused website, it was one of the games we dedicated a full podcast to. Maybe overkill, but we all liked it a lot.

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To the people who hope to one day play Rage: don't bother. I finished it on PS3 and it was terrible. Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Borderlands (original) are far superior games. Rage was one of the biggest gaming disappointments I've had.

Now, I do hope we get the engine code some day, as I'm sure someone could make something much better with it.

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