Quoting: daemon_byte

Quoting: jarhead_hThere IS an easy answer for this. REQUIRE that ALL SOFTWARE be open sourced ten years from date of first sale. Then the community can take it from there.

The problem you have there is not all the game code might be able to be open sourced. For example if you use a third party game engine you don't have the rights to open source that and they might not want their secret sauce spilling across the web. A simple patch to remove the online requirement would suffice.

ALL SOFTWARE. How is that not specific enough? ALL OF IT. If the game is ten years old, the game engine is ten years old. The operating system it's running on is ten years old. It's all ten years from date of first sale, so it all get's open sourced. Game, OS, network tool, whatever.

The only way to stop corporate from using copyright as a sledgehammer against the people is TO TAKE IT AWAY. So they get ten years to make money off of the software - which is probably five years too long - and then that right is taken away outright with no exceptions.

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There IS an easy answer for this. REQUIRE that ALL SOFTWARE be open sourced ten years from date of first sale. Then the community can take it from there.

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Bryan Lunduke - Microsoft Releases DOS 4.0 Source Code... but it Doesn't Compile!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhGAt3wYTI [External Link]

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The problem will never be solved until it is required by law for ALL software to be open sourced at no longer than ten years from date of first sale. Simple as.

Once that is international law by treaty corporate can shut whatever down whenever and in a few years the community will have the code to resurrect it at their own expense. Honestly the EU by itself could make this happen because their consumer protection courts seem to actually do something every now and again.

Also, software needs to be relocated from copyright to patent law. Basically we handle intellectual property protection completely wrong.

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We need to be comfortable with not owning games? With the popularity of Steam, EPIK, Origin, etc, I'd say mission is accomplished. Even consoles don't use discs any longer, and the end of physical media is the end of even pretending that we own anything.

Unpopular take: I've made my peace with it. Also if I never play another corporate video game again I will live a full life. If I never see a new movie or tv show I will be happy. For example, Star Wars ended with RoTJ in the 1980's no matter what they pretend continued it. The MCU ended with Endgame. CoD ended with Modern Warfare fifteen years ago.

You get the idea. It's time to walk away. It's time to divorce yourself from their content. It's time to start taking up different ways to use your time. I suggest 3D printing or other forays into DIY CNC, but that's my proclivity. You do you. But trying to beat corporate playing by corporate's rules in corporate's system is just beating your head against a brick wall.

I am running a small business using only Linux computers and software that runs natively on Linux. Lightburn is not an open source program, but it runs on Linux natively so I am happy to pay for a license to use it, for the same reason that I am a supporter of Steam despite the fact that it's a combination DRM program AND a data mining operation. If they are going to support our platform natively I will support them and be happy to do it.

At bare minimum I would suggest never paying to play another Ubisoft game again. Hell, they don't even offer Linux native versions of their software. So they want us to be comfortable not owning anything, okay then they have to get comfortable with us never paying them for anything. I've played all the Far Cry I need to play so goodbye Ubisoft and any other corporation that takes that stance. You won't be missed.

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At this point I wish Nightdive would just release NOLF and risk the lawsuit from FOX.

Seconding the request for the Elite Force games. I'm going to add in one for GUN.

Remedy is apparently doing the remasters of both Max Paynes, but then they are going to lock them down on EPIC so hell with them.

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Awesome. I just fired up Quake2RTX for the first time the other day and I'm getting a solid 25FPS on my RX6800XT at 4K.

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You know, before The Matrix hit theaters I had been in boot camp, and when I was in school of infantry it came to the base theater and I had absolutely no idea what the hell it was about. I just wanted to go to the movies. Simply put if you went into that film any other way than absolutely blind you missed out because you had some idea of what it might be about. You had things already spoiled by someone, etc.

I bring it up because as soon as I saw the first trailer for Selaco I stopped watching any more trailers. I don't want to play the demo, I want to go into it completely clueless and then be blown away just like that night at the movies.

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Looks like Left 4 Dead with bugs, which is exactly what it should look like. Starship Troopers as an IP lends itself to coop rather than competitive gameplay. Had a very vague idea along these lines all the way back when Roughnecks was still airing eps on TV, as in "wouldn't it be cool if...." Glad to see someone else did too and ran with it.

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Quoting: Redhacker2

Quoting: legluondunet.....

Indeed, who remembers the no-cd patch to be able to play your own game without putting the f*****g CD in the player making the sound of a plane ready to take off…

Oh, I remember. As of two years ago I still needed a No-CD crack to play Warhammer40K Space Marine on Steamplay. That's since been fixed, but still a great example of how that crap is still screwing people over ten years after release.

I was there for the DOS age of PC gaming. I was there for the transition to Windows95/98, 3D acceleration, etc. Over the years I noticed certain trends that continue to hold:

1) Software companies do not care about the future. They just want you to buy whatever they are releasing right now.

2) If that release is buggy it will never be completely fixed. It will be "good enough" and then dumped on the market with nothing further spent on it.

3) The companies that deliver quality up front will deliver support down the line, and vice-versa.

4) It's obvious that software is covered under the wrong branch of IP law. Instead of copyright it should be covered under patent.

5) Copyright law is a sledgehammer that corporate uses to beat little guys over the head with.

My solution is that all software should be required to be open-sourced at no latter than five years from date of first sale with a very limited grace period for existing software at time of making this change to the law. The software companies don't want to support their product, and will fight it with everything they have, so why force them to? Simply force them to provide the code that will make it possible for others to support the older software and the problem will disappear.

This rule will work as well for operating systems and productivity software as it does for games.

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