Quoting: RoosterI wonder who was the initiator.. Valve or BattleEye? If Valve, then would mean they are putting quite a lot of effort into Steam Play. Interesting...

Quoting: fagnerlnI think that an anti cheat software will require a very specific proton version, and because of that, some games will need a legacy version.

I don't know, but to me, this will open a big door to cheaters.

That means, cheaters will run the game purposely through Linux, which means more people on Linux, so.. Yay?

Sounds like a worse scenario to me.
If we get a bigger marketshare beacause of cheaters, this will harm us a lot.
The companies will see, that supporting Linux is expensive and makes more problems (cheaters) - they will just stop it. Experiment was negative, so lets forget about Linux will be the answer....

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Quoting: EhvisI wouldn't be surprised if they *only* support steam games in Proton and not generic wine.

I think this is the scenario with the biggest chance.
There surely will not be something like an open source "EAC/Battleye" within wine.
And surely, Valve has to pay them.

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Does really someone develop cheats for Linux?

Perhaps they are pausing, because their responsible devs are working on a Proton solution.

Calm down people. There is really not enough information to get mad at EPIC, Sweeny or whom ever.

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TBH, that is some kind of "none-information".
If we do not have an idea, how much was in stock, it does not say anything...

That is like, "I think my PC will cost 1000"

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I really don't understand, why Valve doesn't fight back?

They are in a war. There is EPIC and soon there ist Stadia. Also MS is buying Gamedevs - so they surely soon will start something like Windows-Store exclusives. And I can Imagine that EPIC will do a cooperation with discord (TEncent...) to get Voice and friendship Lists into EPIC very soon.

I can't see Valve doing something. In my feeling they get more and more irrelevant. The cool new stuff goes to EPIC and I am sure even Stadia will get exclusives.

I really like Valve for beeing open (not only in Terms of Linux support). But if they don't start to fight, they will get in serious trouble.

Perhaps they should try to buy CDPR before google, MS or EPIC is doing it. Or another studio that makes great games. Must not be Steam exclusive then - but Perhaps "non epic exclusiv" :-)
Or buy the Unity company to have control over a widely used engine (I think source-engine is out dated)

Come on Valve - get out of your comfort zone! (It shrinks..)

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Quoting: psycho_driver

Quoting: KandarihuIf all of this "industry interest in Linux" is just for the sake of games-as-a-service systems like Stadia, then they've been using us all along. I have been supporting Linux gaming for the sake of increasing freedom for the consumer, not for pushing some unaccountable streaming system where the publisher has absolute control over every individual instance of the game. If we want to see gaming on our own desktops, we need to amend our cries.
We want to play games on OUR Linux desktops, not THEIR servers!

Yeah the whole games as a service thing sucks. On the other hand, anything that drives developers to developing for linux is an overall positive thing.

That can be positive. I am pretty sure, that we will never see Linux binaries for e.g. Ubisoft Titles.

On the other hand, the driver situation gets better and the more familar developers get with Vulkan and Linux the better.

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Quoting: serge418.52.05 is a beta release based on an older branch.

418.52.05 is Vulkan beta
p.s. Is this 430.09 beta?

According to this page https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1050666/b/t/post/5332260/#5332260 [External Link] which was a little late appearing this time, it is a beta driver yeah.

This driver numbers from NVIDIA always confuse me.

I now have to use the 430.09, because since my upgrade to Ubuntu 19.04, the 415.27 doesn`t work anymore.

I don't understand, if this is a driver is with Vulkan support or if this is a downstep for me. Is it worth investigating to get 415.27 running again? :S:

Try the 418 driver, works fine for me on 19.04.

Thanks, that works also. But seems to make no difference to 430.09. But off course I didn't really test it within games.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: axredneck

Quoting: serge418.52.05 is a beta release based on an older branch.

418.52.05 is Vulkan beta
p.s. Is this 430.09 beta?

According to this page https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1050666/b/t/post/5332260/#5332260 [External Link] which was a little late appearing this time, it is a beta driver yeah.

This driver numbers from NVIDIA always confuse me.

I now have to use the 430.09, because since my upgrade to Ubuntu 19.04, the 415.27 doesn`t work anymore.

I don't understand, if this is a driver is with Vulkan support or if this is a downstep for me. Is it worth investigating to get 415.27 running again? :S:

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyNow you are spreading the myth that EU is undemocratic which is blatantly false.

Sure? And why could lobbyist e.g. take part of the negotiation of TTIP, but it was a secret for us - the citizens? And whom do I vote, if I do not have the chance to know, what he is doing in my name?

Is this really democracy? IMHO it is more some lobbycracy. Lobbyist have more power in Brüssel then the EU citizens have. That is, for example, a lack of democracy.
And the more these organization are away from control of their citizens, the more democracy looses.

And in my feelings, they also try to hide the facts, which things the parliament people did or do. E.G. if you look at things, that Tendering rules do not apply to Microsoft.

There are a lot of things, where the EU breaks their rules. If you define rules in a kind of democratic process, but you break them again and again - IMHO that is not really democracy.

But perhaps we get to off topic here.

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Quoting: GuestThe EU is not a single country, it's just a weak union. The EU countries doesn't have a shared tax collection and they wouldn't share it anyway because it would hurt richer countries very badly.

IMHO the EU is a bunch of egoists, that claim to be a union. But in nearly all serious matters they do not manage to get something sensefull working.
So they try to show, that they care for us with such important things like game prices between different countries.

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